Engagement of Princess Maria Laura and William Isvy; 27 Dec 2021


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Someone said something about September 9th, but I have the impression that it will be very private
 
Biri said:
Is the wedding date already known?
We are already in the second half of the year.
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I suspect we will learn the date in August and in September the ceremony takes place.

sjetajiem said:
Someone said something about September 9th, but I have the impression that it will be very private
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You posted the date as mentioned in Nobiliana MAG forum, but that was a wild guess, I think.

If very private indeed, I do think/hope one or two pictures may be released, just like with their engagement. And perhaps a small video.
 
September is not that far off but still no exact date?
 
I’m sure it will be a lovely wedding and they are a nice looking couple
 
I think the wedding would most likely be on a Saturday (i.e. probably not on 9th September, which is a Friday).
 
The Guest list might be a big one, but seeing as they are both quite private, we will see pictures? Not sure
 
Hopefully the Princess will get to wear a tiara on her big day,whenever that is!
 
SirGyamfi1 said:
The Guest list might be a big one, but seeing as they are both quite private, we will see pictures? Not sure
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Considering they released two pictures for their engagement (and two additional ones), I hope we will see some from the wedding.
 
An Ard Ri said:
Hopefully the Princess will get to wear a tiara on her big day,whenever that is!
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Her father’s family have tiaras so maybe she’ll wear one of those. If only they had the emerald tiara that the Dukes of Aosta used to own, such a beautiful piece. But there are still options of other tiaras.
 
SirGyamfi1 said:
Her father’s family have tiaras so maybe she’ll wear one of those. If only they had the emerald tiara that the Dukes of Aosta used to own, such a beautiful piece. But there are still options of other tiaras.
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Or the diamond tiara of queen Elisabeth which was worn by Princess-Archduchess Elisabetta on her wedding day!
 
No Word about the date of the Wedding , I suppose when the King will be back from holiday .
To me they will have a private Wedding , no TV live transmisssion , just the family and no royal guests.
 
The Princess-Archduchess is the first of the king's nieces to get married but I concur and believe it will be be a private family wedding :previous:
 
An Ard Ri said:
The Princess-Archduchess is the first of the king's nieces to get married but I concur and believe it will be be a private family wedding :previous:
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My guess is that it will be the same as for her bothers Weddings. Press is allowed before the Church to take pics.
 
maria-olivia said:
No Word about the date of the Wedding , I suppose when the King will be back from holiday .
To me they will have a private Wedding , no TV live transmisssion , just the family and no royal guests.
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Her family on both her mother's and father's side consists mostly of royals (and if not royal, many are at least noble)... So, there will be many royal (and noble) guests, including the Belgian royal family, the Luxembourgian Grand Ducal family, the Habsburgs and probably some Italian royal and noble family members because both her grandmothers are Italian (Savoy-Aosta and Ruffo di Calabria).
 
A very impressive cathedral! I’m sure the photos will be wonderful!
 
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Her family on both her mother's and father's side consists mostly of royals (and if not royal, many are at least noble)... So, there will be many royal (and noble) guests, including the Belgian royal family, the Luxembourgian Grand Ducal family, the Habsburgs and probably some Italian royal and noble family members because both her grandmothers are Italian (Savoy-Aosta and Ruffo di Calabria).
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Princess Beatrice and her husband might be invited because Maria-Laura’s brother knows her and she lives in London too. I think some members of the Princely Liechtenstein family will come and probably some of the Belgian and possibly some German nobility.
 
No Officlal Communicaton of the Royal Palace and not from Princess Astrid and Prince Lorenz. Nothing in our newspapers and on TV.
First Weddding of a Princess of Belgium in the Cathedral which was in Renovation for Princess Astrid's Wedding. She was then the niece of King Baudouin. Philippe and Laurent were the Sons of King Albert II.
 
maria-olivia said:
No Officlal Communicaton of the Royal Palace and not from Princess Astrid and Prince Lorenz. Nothing in our newspapers and on TV.
First Weddding of a Princess of Belgium in the Cathedral which was in Renovation for Princess Astrid's Wedding. She was then the niece of King Baudouin. Philippe and Laurent were the Sons of King Albert II.
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That is why I am careful about the date of September 10. The Flemish newspapers have mentioned it, because it was published on the website of bruzz.be, but how do they know??

As long as there's nothing official, I don't believe anything at face value.

I suspect the summer holidays are a major hindrance right now.
 
Yes, at last. So September 10 and the St Michael and St Gudula Cathedral were the correct date and location. I assume someone spoke too early since it wasn't confirmed before (like when in September 1999 a courtier let the news about Philippe and Mathilde slip before it was official).

500 sounds like a lot of guests. I'm happy things are now official.
 
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Edited: Wedding details from the press conference moved to the wedding thread.


The confirmation that William Isvy is indeed Jewish means that he will make history not only as the first commoner to be approved as a dynastic spouse of a princess, but also the first non-Christian to be. Moreover, if I'm not mistaken, he is the first non-Christian to marry any member of the Royal Family (the spouses of Alexandre, Marie-Christine and Esmeralda were all from predominantly Christian countries, but I am not familiar with their personal histories).

Will William Isvy be the first non-Christian to marry into any reigning family in Europe since the Middle Ages?

A question to those who are more knowledgeable about religious issues: Does the couple's choice of a Catholic religious wedding ceremony with Jewish influences suggest that William will remain Jewish and/or that possible children will be raised Catholic?
 
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Tatiana Maria said:
The reports of Wim Dehandschutter (thank you to Stefan):


"[CONFIRMED DATE] Belgian Princess Maria Laura will marry William Isvy on September 10, Brussels mayor @PhilippeClose and couple’s spokesman @HerveVerhoosel said in a press conference.

? Civil marriage at Brussels town hall in the morning.
? Private ceremony, only +/- 35 guests.
? Witnesses: Laura’s sisters Luisa and Laetitia; William’s brother and sister.

? Religious marriage at St Michael and St Gudula Cathedral, Brussels (2:30PM).
? 500 guests, including Belgian royal family.
? Catholic celebration with Jewish influences (William is Jewish)."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1560238445167083520
https://twitter.com/x/status/1560242466829340672
https://twitter.com/x/status/1560242700171055104
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The religious wedding will be officiated by Cardinal Józef De Kesel, archbishop of Mechelen-Brussels.

Spokesman Herve Verhoosel:
"The couple plan on organizing the civil ceremony in an intimate circle. Only a small number of family members will be present."
"Five hundred Belgian and foreign guests will be invited to the [religious] service, including all the members of the royal family."
"The couple want songs to play an important role. Both Christian and Jewish songs will be performed."
"In addition to the parents, the sisters and brothers of the bridal couple and some good friends are assisting with organizing the celebration and receiving the guests."

https://www.hln.be/royalty/prinses-...-intieme-kring-georganiseerd-worden~a67e7151/


Were the other royal civil weddings which took place in Belgium also situated in the Brussels Town Hall?
I presume the mayor's presence at the press conference means he is the designated officiant.

St Michael and St Gudula Cathedral has a proud history as a venue for royal weddings, funerals, etc.
Were past royal religious weddings likewise officiated by the archbishop of Brussels?
https://www.cathedralisbruxellensis.be/en/history/


The confirmation that William Isvy is indeed Jewish means that he will make history not only as the first commoner to be approved under the laws of royal succession as a dynastic spouse, but also the first non-Christian to be. Moreover, if I'm not mistaken, he is the first non-Christian to marry any member the Royal Family (the spouses of Alexandre, Marie-Christine and Esmeralda were all from predominantly Christian countries, but I am not familiar with their personal histories).

Will William Isvy be the first non-Christian to marry into any reigning family in Europe since the Middle Ages?

A question to those who are more knowledgeable about religious issues: Does the couple's choice of a Catholic religious wedding ceremony with Jewish influences suggest that William will remain Jewish and/or that possible children will be raised Catholic?
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The wedding in Roman Catholic Church signifies that potential children of the couple will be raised as Roman Catholics.

One of the questions the officiating priests asks the couple sounds as follows:

""Do you want to lovingly receive and educate in a Roman Catholic church the offspring God will give to you?"
 
Tatiana Maria said:
Were the other royal civil weddings which took place in Belgium also situated in the Brussels Town Hall?
I presume the mayor's presence at the press conference means he is the designated officiant.
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The civil Weddings of King Philippe, Princess Astrid and Prince Laurent took place at the townhall, those of Kings Baudouin and Albert II. and probably those before too took place at the Royal Palace.
 
Tatiana Maria said:
The confirmation that William Isvy is indeed Jewish means that he will make history not only as the first commoner to be approved under the laws of royal succession as a dynastic spouse, but also the first non-Christian to be. Moreover, if I'm not mistaken, he is the first non-Christian to marry any member the Royal Family (the spouses of Alexandre, Marie-Christine and Esmeralda were all from predominantly Christian countries, but I am not familiar with their personal histories).
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I'm a bit confused here, if talking about first commoner, I thought it's Claire? (I have to admit I'm not familiar with the law of royal succession part, would be grateful if someone is able to explain that).
 
W.Y.CII said:
I'm a bit confused here, if talking about first commoner, I thought it's Claire? (I have to admit I'm not familiar with the law of royal succession part, would be grateful if someone is able to explain that).
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You're absolutely right. I meant a spouse of a princess (as I wrote earlier in the thread), and will correct the post.

ETA: Moreover, I meant both house laws and succession laws, as Princess Maria Laura is only the first princess to marry while she is in the line of succession.
 
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So, it's like maria-olivia said, the first Princess of Belgium to actually marry in the St Michael and St Gudula Cathedral.
 
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