Ich habe eine sehr spezielle Frage zu den Wittelsbachern. Es geht um das Allianzwappen Wittelsbacher und Kurpfalz:
Im Schloss Nymphenburg, erster Stock Nordseite sind drei Räume zu besichtigen. Im ersten Raum befinden sich Portraits von Hofdamen aus der Großen Schönheitsgalerie Max Emanuels, den zweiten dekorieren vier Knüpfteppiche mit dem Allianzwappen von Bayern und der Kurpfalz (sog. Wappenzimmer) während im dritten Raum Bildnisse Karl Theodors und seiner Gemahlin hängen. (Quelle: Wikipedia)
Drei der vier Knüpfteppiche sind fast identisch. Sie zeigen exakt das gleiche Allianzwappen Bayern-Kurpfalz. Das Allianzwappen des vierten Teppichs ist anders. Das Wappen der Kurpfalz zeigt rechts oben drei Kreuze, jedoch eine andere Gebirgsformation. Das rotsilberne Schachbrettmuster in der Mitte des Kurpfalz-Wappens ist grösser, ich meine 5x3 anstatt 3x3 oder so.
Sind das zwei verschiedene Wappen? Vielleicht aus verschiedenen Gebieten der Kurpfalz im 18.Jhdt? Aus Sulzbach oder so.
Wo kann ich Literatur zu dieser Wappenfrage finden?
Gruss Franz
{Edit Marengo: Note that the original post was deleted as it was in German, only that was before we noticed Jo's informative reply, which we do not want to delete}
For those interested:
Franz asks about four tapestries on display at the palace of Nymphenburg in Munich, Bavaria. They are displayed in a room called heraldic chamber and show the combined coat of arms of Bavaria and the Palatinate. Three look quite the same but one features a different coast of arms for the Palatinate than the others.
I checked for him and found that the tapestries were woven for Karl IV. Theodor of Wittelsbach in 1756 in Mannheim, (today Baden-Wuerttemberg). Karl-Theodor was born in 1724 as the only son of the then reigning duke of Pfalz-Sulzbach, an independant dukedom, reigned by the Pfalz-Sulzbach-branch (a cadet branch) of the Wittelsbach of Bavaria. From his mother, Marie Henriette de La Tour-Auvergne he had inherited a marquisate in the Netherlands, Bergen-op-Zoom. In 1733 he inherited his father's dukedom (Sulzbach BTW is a town in Upper Franconia, part of Bavaria). Because he was the heir of his greatuncle Karl III. of Wittelsbach, who was Prince-elector of the Palatinate, duke of Pfalz-Neuburg (Neuburg is as well in Bavaria) and duke of Jülich-Berg (in Northern Germany), Karl Theodor was educated in Mannheim at his great-uncle's court. In 1742 he inherited from his great-uncle.
In 1766 it dawned on the prince-elector of Bavaria, head of the House of Wittelsbach, that the prince-elector of the Palatinate was in all probability his heir. Contracts were made in order to secure Bavaria in this case from Austria, because it was well-known that Karl Theodor hated Munich and would prefer to exchange Bavaria for the Austrian Netherlands in order to create a new realm in between France and Germany, reaching from the North Sea to the French border of the Alsace with Mannheim as the capital, where Karl Theodor was on building the second largest baroque palace after Versailles, but with one more window build in on purpose...
On hindsight it was good that the Bavarian Wittelsbachs insisted on these inheritance contracts which forced Karl Theodor to move to Munich because Napoleon led to Wittelsbach's loosing all its possessions except those within Bavaria. Though it's fun to think about what might have been, because Karl Theodor's heir Max Joseph (from the Pfalz-Birkenfeld-Bischweiler-Zweibrücken-branch of the Wittelsbach) managed to wrangle the title of "king of Bavaria" out of Napoleon in exchange of his daughter Amalia's hand in marriage for Eugene de Beaharnais. Maybe he could have kept Karl Theodor's dream realm and become with Austria the counterpart of Prussia in Germany? Who knows...
So in 1777 Karl Theodor inherited Bavaria and moved to Munich, where he died in the palace of Nymphenburg in 1799. As he had no children of his own, he brought his nephew Max Joseph with him. All Palatinian branches of the Wittelsbachs historically had the title of "duke in Bavaria", so Karl-Theodor and later Max Joseph were "dukes in Bavaria" and later "dukes of Bavaria" while the cousins of Max-Joseph of the Wittelsbach-branch of Pfalz-Birkenfeld-Bischweiler-Gelnhausen, when they moved to Bavaria stayed just "dukes in Bavaria" but got the style of HRH when Max I. Joseph became king (for all of you who always wanted to know why Empress Elizabeth and her sisters queen Marie of Naples, Sophie d'Alencon and Helene of Thurn & Taxis were called "duchesses in Bavaria" pre-wedding while her Elisabeth's mother-in-law Archduchess Sophie and her sisters, the queens of Prussia and Saxony, were princesses of Bavaria pre-wedding).
Back to the tapestries: probably the dukedoms of Pfalz-Neuburg and Jülich-Berg used the coat of arms of the electorate of the Palatinate when Karl-Theodor inherited, so he had four tapestries woven for his three dukedoms and his electorate and their alliance with Bavaria, where the main branch of his family reigned.
