Divorce For Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid & Princess Haya


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This is just my personal opinion but I think it’s quite unfair and sad for us as viewers from the outside to focus solely on the “negative” aspect of this case, namely Sheikha Latifa and Sheikha Shamsa, etc, and then judge based on that. I actually would strongly emphasize on how happy the rest of Sheikh Mohammed’s children are and how well they are treated. I mean that definitely must count for something and should not be forgotten.
 
I'm sorry but bd behavior is bad behavior, even against one single person. The feeling given by all situation is that since kids follow Sh Mos wills, they have peace and money, otherwise they have the worst.
And we don't know what will happen to these apparently happy kids if once one of them decide not to follow their fathers wishes.
And we don't have only pc Samsa and Latifa cases. This guy apparently obliged his CP son to marry against his wish. And took a baby kid from her mum who never saw her again, I'm talking about the first wife, the Lebanese lady. Not the best impression about this supposed good father.
TheRoyal said:
This is just my personal opinion but I think it’s quite unfair and sad for us as viewers from the outside to focus solely on the “negative” aspect of this case, namely Sheikha Latifa and Sheikha Shamsa, etc, and then judge based on that. I actually would strongly emphasize on how happy the rest of Sheikh Mohammed’s children are and how well they are treated. I mean that definitely must count for something and should not be forgotten.
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fandesacs2003 said:
I'm sorry but bd behavior is bad behavior, even against one single person. The feeling given by all situation is that since kids follow Sh Mos wills, they have peace and money, otherwise they have the worst.
And we don't know what will happen to these apparently happy kids if once one of them decide not to follow their fathers wishes.
And we don't have only pc Samsa and Latifa cases. This guy apparently obliged his CP son to marry against his wish. And took a baby kid from her mum who never saw her again, I'm talking about the first wife, the Lebanese lady. Not the best impression about this supposed good father.
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I honestly don’t believe that the sole reason the other kids have peace and happiness is because of obeying Sheikh Mohammed’s wills. Love can’t be faked and we clearly cannot deny that we see how much the kids love their father. And we can’t be the ones to claim that is the reason.

I also don’t think we can forecast what happens in the future and then say because we don’t know what will happen in the future then we should feel negative about a person.

Regarding the Lebanese lady, I think there are lots of communication modes to reach her now adult daughter. And since there is no public comment from Sheikha Manal, how can we only judge from one person’s point of view without knowing what Sheikha Manal feels about this situation?

So basically all the negative issues are stemming from one side only, have we even heard Sheikh Mohammed comment about any of this to hear his point of view? I always and strongly believe everyone has a right for their point of view to be heard and explained and I personally refrain from judging a person based on only negative “incidents”.

And even if I heard both sides of the story, I try to remember that I am still a human being and people in the public eye sure face a tough time when such negative incidents are made public. It’s very easy for us to type and judge about others so long as we are living our private lives completely away from the public.
 
fandesacs2003 said:
I'm sorry but bd behavior is bad behavior, even against one single person. The feeling given by all situation is that since kids follow Sh Mos wills, they have peace and money, otherwise they have the worst.
And we don't know what will happen to these apparently happy kids if once one of them decide not to follow their fathers wishes.
And we don't have only pc Samsa and Latifa cases. This guy apparently obliged his CP son to marry against his wish. And took a baby kid from her mum who never saw her again, I'm talking about the first wife, the Lebanese lady. Not the best impression about this supposed good father.
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You are right tomorrow all the children will post like a robot on Instagram with Sheikh Mohammed picture my number 1, my everything, world's best father. Their behavior closely monitored by Sheikh Mohammed. If you want to safe do what papa says. Not only Manal there are other children whom he took from their mother and gave them to his sisters.
 
Appearances can be deceiving and photographs just a snapshot in time that can paint a thousand words. Reminds me that things aren't always as they seem to be.

In this matter, we're just all on the outside looking in and have no real idea of what is true and what is not. Only those involved closely really know.
 
Lasya said:
You are right tomorrow all the children will post like a robot on Instagram with Sheikh Mohammed picture my number 1, my everything, world's best father. Their behavior closely monitored by Sheikh Mohammed. If you want to safe do what papa says. Not only Manal there are other children whom he took from their mother and gave them to his sisters.
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I think it is a bit harsh to say “he took from their mother and gave to his sisters” because we don’t have any information of what exactly happened at that time and what were the circumstances exactly. Plus he is the parent and not a stranger in this situation. Even Sheikha Maryam I proudly calls her Aunt who raised her as her mother, so why isn’t this brought up? Only when isolated negative cases happen is when people suddenly become interested.
 
TheRoyal said:
I think it is a bit harsh to say “he took from their mother and gave to his sisters” because we don’t have any information of what exactly happened at that time and what were the circumstances exactly. Plus he is the parent and not a stranger in this situation. Even Sheikha Maryam I proudly calls her Aunt who raised her as her mother, so why isn’t this brought up? Only when isolated negative cases happen is when people suddenly become interested.
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I don't know if this is the thread to discuss this or not but I'm not saying that Sheikh Mohammed's sisters are bad parents for the children but why when their mothers are alive and healthy let them raise their children just like Sheikha Hind and Princess Haya. Maryam I mother Pauline and rached is living in Lebanon and she is raising another son Suhail who never got recognition as a Sheikh. Just because those women do not come from ruling families they treated like this. Tiina said in an interview Sheikh Mohammed rarely meets his children so why not let them close to their mother. Why raise them like orphans. These negative things we are talking about Sheikh Mohammed are the only that became public just imagine what other things he is hiding. His favorite children are the ones who follow him blindly. This is the reason once he will be dead It will be difficult for his children to rule Dubai without his guidance.
 
Lasya said:
I don't know if this is the thread to discuss this or not but I'm not saying that Sheikh Mohammed's sisters are bad parents for the children but why when their mothers are alive and healthy let them raise their children just like Sheikha Hind and Princess Haya. Maryam I mother Pauline and rached is living in Lebanon and she is raising another son Suhail who never got recognition as a Sheikh. Just because those women do not come from ruling families they treated like this. Tiina said in an interview Sheikh Mohammed rarely meets his children so why not let them close to their mother. Why raise them like orphans. These negative things we are talking about Sheikh Mohammed are the only that became public just imagine what other things he is hiding. His favorite children are the ones who follow him blindly. This is the reason once he will be dead It will be difficult for his children to rule Dubai without his guidance.
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As I mentioned, we don’t have any idea of what the circumstances were that led to the children being raised by the aunts. Who were Sheikha Latifa and Sheikha Shamsa raised by? If it was the aunts as well, how come Sheikha Maryam I isn’t complaining and really loves her aunt and sees her as her mother?

Did you see Sheikha Maryam I’s interaction with Sheikh Mohammed on her university graduation day? Did you see how close they are?

Just because one or two of them had an issue whereas the other children who were also raised by the aunts seem to be very happy should make us be considerate enough not to judge Sheikh Mohammed negatively. This is only my humble opinion and my own point of view in this matter in this divorce/court matter.
 
I think it is best to stick to what we know. Shamsa, a legal adult, was kidnapped on the street in Cambridge, Latifa kidnapped off a yacht in international waters.

1. There were witnesses and

2. Latifa did the zombie appearance for the cameras while Shamsa has not been seen in the twenty years since she was taken.

3. Sheikh Mohammed's standard operating procedure when ending a marriage or mistress type liaison is to banish the mother and keep the children.

In light of the above, I believe Princess Haya thought the same would happen to her if she tried to divorce her husband in Dubai.

A non-molestation order is almost pro forma in such cases and, Haya also applied for wardship for both her children which appears to have been granted.

In light of the recent arranged marriages carried out for three of his older son's, Princess Haya's request to prevent a forced marriage for one of her children seems almost prescient.
 
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MARG said:
I think it is best to stick to what we know. Shamsa, a legal adult, was kidnapped on the street in Cambridge, Latifa kidnapped off o yacht in international waters.

1. There were witnesses and

2. Latifa did the zombie appearance for the cameras while Shamsa has not been seen in the twenty years since she was taken.

3. Sheikh Mohammed's standard operating procedure when ending a marriage or mistress type liaison is to banish the mother and keep the children.

In light of the above I believe Princess Haya thought the same would happen to her if she tried to divorce her husband in Dubai.

A non-molestation order is almost pro forma in such cases and, Haya also allied for wardship for both her children which appears to have been granted.

In light of the recent arranged marriages carried out for three of his older son's, Princess Haya's request to prevent a forced marriage for one of her children seems almost prescient.
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Didn’t Princess Haya disappear before the arranged marriages were even announced? So how could it be related to the arranged marriages?

The story is that Sheikha Shamsa and Latifa had run away from their own homes and then brought back, “kidnapped” makes it seem like them running away is fine and they have no fault of their own. I think especially in Ruling families the parent(s) would be very worried for the wellbeing and security of their children, no matter how old they are, and especially if they are girls. So imagine finding out that a daughter is no longer found at the place of residence, how should that make a parent feel?

I believe whatever we read online is never the “whole” story, there are always missing emotions and circumstances that have not been captured.
 
TheRoyal said:
Didn’t Princess Haya disappear before the arranged marriages were even announced? So how could it be related to the arranged marriages?

The story is that Sheikha Shamsa and Latifa had run away from their own homes and then brought back, “kidnapped” makes it seem like them running away is fine and they have no fault of their own. I think especially in Ruling families the parent(s) would be very worried for the wellbeing and security of their children, no matter how old they are, and especially if they are girls. So imagine finding out that a daughter is no longer found at the place of residence, how should that make a parent feel?

I believe whatever we read online is never the “whole” story, there are always missing emotions and circumstances that have not been captured.
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Shamsa and Latifa were adults when they were kidnapped by their father’s employees. So yes, they were kidnapped adults, not runaway children.
 
Everybody has their own opinion but I rather believe the people who are fighting for their lives and children than a man who has all the power in the world to do anything to anyone. Who just got exposed thanks to Latifa II video and then Princess Haya's escape from Dubai.
 
O-H Anglophile said:
Shamsa and Latifa were adults when they were kidnapped by their father’s employees. So yes, they were kidnapped adults, not runaway children.
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In traditional Arab and Muslim families, girls are under the guardianship of the parents/father even after they turn 18 and until marriage. That is why in the UAE it would be considered as runaway and not kidnapped.
 
Lasya said:
Everybody has their own opinion but I rather believe the people who are fighting for their lives and children than a man who has all the power in the world to do anything to anyone. Who just got exposed thanks to Latifa II video and then Princess Haya's escape from Dubai.
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Exactly I agree that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I am simply expressing my opinion about what I feel in this case regarding Sheikh Mohammed. I cannot hate someone based on something negative that has been written and then ignore each and every good thing that the person has done in his whole life.
 
Anyone who follows this case will remember how some websites tried to push the news of Princess Haya having an affair with her bodyguard and Sheikh Zayed bin Mohammed is bodyguard's son. I thought Sheikh Mohammed will come forward to stop this news rather than he stayed silent which is ok especially when he's fighting with the mother for the custody. But then groupfazza Instagram Page which runs by Sheikh Hamdan's friends and staff put a picture of Aljalila with Sheikh Mohammed her birthday but didn't wish Zayed the same way. Clearly, they are pushing this bodyguard drama which is disgusting and that from the most famous son's fan page. All the fan pages of Al Maktoum run by either the friends or staff. They also ignore Zayed's birthday even though they wish almost every Maktoum family members. And who can forget Sheikh Majid kicked out of all the position he had in Dubai after marrying Hessa Beljafla. All the 3 main sons excitement on their wedding day can became a whole new thread.
 
Lasya said:
Anyone who follows this case will remember how some websites tried to push the news of Princess Haya having an affair with her bodyguard and Sheikh Zayed bin Mohammed is bodyguard's son. I thought Sheikh Mohammed will come forward to stop this news rather than he stayed silent which is ok especially when he's fighting with the mother for the custody. But then groupfazza Instagram Page which runs by Sheikh Hamdan's friends and staff put a picture of Aljalila with Sheikh Mohammed her birthday but didn't wish Zayed the same way. Clearly, they are pushing this bodyguard drama which is disgusting and that from the most famous son's fan page. All the fan pages of Al Maktoum run by either the friends or staff. They also ignore Zayed's birthday even though they wish almost every Maktoum family members. And who can forget Sheikh Majid kicked out of all the position he had in Dubai after marrying Hessa Beljafla. All the 3 main sons excitement on their wedding day can became a whole new thread.
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Scandalous news where one cannot prove it or has not been a witness to it is a punishable act in Islam so I don’t have any comment about it at all. It is not something to be said lightly as it affects people’s entire lives especially in very conservative families.

I don’t understand the relevance of the birthday wishes to this case but I have always noticed how happy Al Jalila and Zayed were with their father.

I guess Sheikh Mohammed has his reasons for the restructuring of roles. And as for the three sons, Sheikh Maktoum seems to be happily married and is expecting a baby soon so there is no issue there. That’s the only baby news I have come to know of so far. :)
 
TheRoyal said:
Scandalous news where one cannot prove it or has not been a witness to it is a punishable act in Islam so I don’t have any comment about it at all. It is not something to be said lightly as it affects people’s entire lives especially in very conservative families.

I don’t understand the relevance of the birthday wishes to this case but I have always noticed how happy Al Jalila and Zayed were with their father.

I guess Sheikh Mohammed has his reasons for the restructuring of roles. And as for the three sons, Sheikh Maktoum seems to be happily married and is expecting a baby soon so there is no issue there. That’s the only baby news I have come to know of so far. :)
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Yes, even I always thought Sheikh Mohammed loved Aljalila and Zayed the most. Then what kind of loving father forced His children for marriage. You can have children without loving your partner. Sheikh Mohammed has 12 children with Sheikha Hind if he really loves her then why he can't stop marrying one after one woman. The thing is that when every 3rd-grade website gossiping about Sheikh Zayed's real father the same time wishing one and ignoring the other one is intentionally done. Compare Al Maktoum's family member's behavior on Maryam 2nd marriage and engagement news announcement and triple marriage announcement. No siblings wished Sheikh Maktoum and Sheikha Maryam butti on their engagement. Only mamanoora wished them and this engagement news came after Mary Robinson photoshoot with Latifa II which created more buzz around Latifa II kidnapping. You can check the dates. And Fazza Shaikha engagement only announced by herself ? while fan pages who leaked engagement news said AlMaktoum family didn't like that, so she deleted the news from her page. What kind of happy family gets upset with the engagement news. Sheikh Mohammed has his favorite children but that doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. You have to follow his wish for everything, especially for marriages. So Princess Haya smart enough to ask for forced marriage protection for her child. So Best of luck to her and her children.
 
Guys please stay on the topic
This no place for a Shamsa, Latifa, other children or wives's discussion
So please move on
 
Looks like Sheikh Mohammed appealed against the release of two judgments of the case Tuesday was the last day to appeal on the case. There still no news.
 
Several posts about the on going discussion concerning Shamsa, Latifa and other children has been removed.

As you guys keep ignoring our request to stay on the topic and avoid gossips and speculations note that any further discussion not related to the divorce and the law case will be removed without notice ​
 
Hmm, so he did appeal against the release of the two judgments. What he is trying to hide so hard?
 
I wonder How long this new trial will take??
 
Rossina said:
I wonder How long this new trial will take??
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The spokesperson of the Supreme Court confirmed that Sheikh Mohammed had lodged an application for permission to appeal against the Court of Appeal's ruling.

She added that the application will be referred to three Supreme Court justices - Lord Hodge, Lord Wilson and Lady Black - and that the court is "aware of the urgency of this matter".
Since they understand the urgency hopefully it will soon
 
I don't really understand. They seem like spending a lot of time for side matters, like the secrecy of their court case, but what about the nucleus of the case?Are they going to discuss it one day?
 
Some will be public but most to do with the children will not.
 
Lumutqueen said:
The BBC have just released this;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51756984

“Dubai's Sheikh Mohammed abducted daughters and threatened wife - UK court”
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This also says she had an affair with her bodyguard. That's mean she really did that ?

Princess Haya also feared their youngest daughter, Princess Jalila, was allegedly lined up for a forced marriage aged 11 to Mohammed Bin Salman, the notorious Saudi crown prince accused of killing journalist Jamal Khashoggi. This couldn't proved to be true.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-loses-Supreme-Court-appeal-marital-feud.html
 
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Lasya said:
This also says she had an affair with her bodyguard. That's mean she really did that ��
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And obviously sheikh Mohammed didn't care about that, at the documents at the link I posted.
"At some stage in 2017/18 the mother embarked upon an adulterous relationship with one of her male bodyguards. Although, it seems, the father was probably aware of this for some time, matters did not come to a head until January 2019."
"The mother claims that at some time between 23 and 27 February 2019, the father telephoned her. During the call he said “I have received bad news about you. I have heard that you are sitting in the palace with the British security (a reference to the bodyguard). I am starting to doubt you”. The effect of this call on the mother was chilling. She says “I was terrified”".

"Unbeknownst to the mother at the time, the father divorced her under Sharia Law on 7 February 2019. That date was the twentieth anniversary of the death of the mother’s late father, King Hussein of Jordan. The mother is clear that the date will have been deliberately chosen by the father to maximise insult and upset to her"
 
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