I see that the guest list has been released, it's practically as I expected it.
However, I have a question: on https://www.royal.uk/funeral-duke-edinburgh-0, it says "The Earl of Wessex and Forfar" and "The Countess of Wessex and Forfar".
What does Forfar mean?
Echo the thoughts about Prince Michael. I’d expected the absence of Daniel Chatto, the Duke of Gloucester or having just one of Princess Margaret’s children to represent her given that he is a closer blood relative to Philip and was a pageboy. I hope he is okay.
It will be sad not to hear the full choir of St George's Chapel singing. Especially the traditional & moving Funeral Sentences by William Croft
The duchesse of Cornwall doesn’t use her higher title which is princess of Wales
I was originally surprised by the inclusion of Philips German family just because of quarantine which was silly really as all they had to do was let them know in plenty of time they were invited as with Harry.
Yeps. She chose to use Charles' *oldest* title instead.
I am not surprised, as Philip always stated that he is close to his German relatives. His niece Princess Margarita of Baden was always invited to almost every royal family event, including yearly Windsor Christmas gathering.
It would be a bit strange not to include his closest relatives even if they all live abroad. Now, we know that it was Philip's wish to include them and that sends some "message". I think that he wanted his family to know that he wanted them to continue to keep in touch with his relatives even after his death.
Yes they are very close. Sarah and Daniel were very close to their Aunt and Uncle and spent a lot of time with them, moreso when their mother became I'll and lived at the Palace. After her death they kept close contact and to this day one expects to see one or the other at any royal gathering.It is often said that after the divorce of Margaret and Earl Snowdon the Queen and Philip invited Sarah and David to family holidays, weekends etc. I suspect they may been closer than we think or see.
Does anyone know why Prince Philip's family were not invited to his wedding?
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Does anyone know why Prince Philip's family were not invited to his wedding?
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It is often said that after the divorce of Margaret and Earl Snowdon the Queen and Philip invited Sarah and David to family holidays, weekends etc. I suspect they may been closer than we think or see.
Does anyone know why Prince Philip's family were not invited to his wedding?
For all intents and purposes, Philip was the only uncle Sarah and David have had for over nearly forty years. Their father had an older sister who died in 1986, 3 years after her husband passed away. Their father also had a, much, younger brother who is only a year or two older than David and about 4 years older than Sarah. I think it's really unfair to say "oh, but they aren't BLOOD relatives of Philip therefore, they aren't as important" - I've never thought of my uncles by marriage as any less a part of my family as my uncle by blood is a part of my family. I would guess that they probably felt especially close to him - I know my cousins who have lost their fathers have formed closer relationships with some of their uncles. I would guess that Sarah and David had a pretty strong relationship with Philip, but that's just a strong hunch based on what we do know about the family interactions and visits.
You will be able to watch a live stream of the ceremony on the Royal Family's YouTube channel from approximately 2.30pm BST on Saturday 17 April 2021.
During a week of watching royal clips I've just had the chance to watch the Elizabeth at 90:A Family Tribute again. Anyone who has seen that will see how close Sarah and David were to the family and the way Sarah speaks about her Auntie shows there is a real strong bond there.
My uncle isn't a blood uncle, but he and my auntie were married long before my sister and I were born, and he's been a big part of our lives all along. The same with David and Sarah and Prince Philip. I'd have been very surprised if David and Sarah hadn't been asked. It's just such a shame that there has to be all this stressing over getting the guest list down to 30, but a lot of people are in that position at the moment.
Do you have Prime, that is where I found it, it was lovely how Sarah spoke about her aunt. Also the different relatives in the various home movies, the fun they all had. Not the cold family that people talk about,
I remember seeing clips of Charles watching home movies of he, his siblings and parents (for a special on his mother, I think)...it was wonderful; it was like he was rediscovering memories that he’d pushed aside or seeing things for the first time that he was too young to remote. William and Harry got kicks out of watching their dad as a kid in home movies also - for Charles at 70, I think
I think there was one for the Jubilee but the One I am talking about tonight is ' Elizabeth at 90 a Family Tribute. It was as you describe family home movies mixed with the family watching them and talking about them. Harry makes a comment about his dad in a pedal car with a cushion, just like now .
William and Harry speak about how beautiful their granny was and how handsome Philip. Maybe we are talking about the same programme,
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This is the one I have been watching, with clips from home movies watched by the family.
I think I saw it...awhile ago, though. It won’t be airing here soon, unfortunately
I take it you mean his German relatives (his mother and Mountbattens were there). It was because the Second World War ended in 1945 and the marriage took place in 1948. There were still a lot of grieving families and it would have been seen as insensitive.