Death and Funeral of Prince Henrik of Denmark: February 13 and 20, 2018


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What lovely pictures of Isabella and her Grandpa. All of the grandchildren are special, of course, but Isabella was the first girl after three grandsons, so I imagine she was doted upon a little more.

Speaking of the grandchildren, they were so well behaved and looked so nice - Christian and Vincent in their topcoats especially. It was touching to see how the older ones helped to look after the younger ones. Nikolai holding Athena's hand!

I wonder if any of the Rosenborgs will be invited to the funeral, especially Princess Elisabeth, since she attended the New Year's gala.
 
Why is it called Castrum Doloris? Usually one would day: "The Prince is laid in State in a chapelle ardente at Christiansborg". I have never heard the term "Castrum Doloris" before.
 
Duc_et_Pair said:
Why is it called Castrum Doloris? Usually one would day: "The Prince is laid in State in a chapelle ardente at Christiansborg". I have never heard the term "Castrum Doloris" before.
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Castrum Doloris is latin. Castle of grief is the english translation (for some reason we translate it to "bed of pain" or something similar in Danish.

Castrum Doloris is different from Lit de Parade, where there is an open casket. Here the casket is closed.
 
Duc_et_Pair said:
Why is it called Castrum Doloris? Usually one would day: "The Prince is laid in State in a chapelle ardente at Christiansborg". I have never heard the term "Castrum Doloris" before.
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From Wikipedia:

Castrum doloris (Latin for castle of grief) is a name for the structure and decorations sheltering or accompanying the catafalque or bier that signify the prestige or high estate of the deceased. A castrum doloris might feature an elaborate baldachin and would include candles, possibly flowers, and in most cases coats of arms, epitaphs and possibly allegorical statues. Many extensive castra doloris can be traced to the customs of 17th century and 18th century or even earlier, since Pope Sixtus V's funeral arrangements included a castrum doloris in the late 16th Century.


In the case of PH's Castrum Doloris, "He lies on a platform made of tree from three of the places the Prince has loved the most: Fredensborg Castle gardens, Graasteen Castle gardens and his French haven Chateau de Cayx. " (from Belga Image)
 
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Duc_et_Pair said:
Why is it called Castrum Doloris? Usually one would day: "The Prince is laid in State in a chapelle ardente at Christiansborg". I have never heard the term "Castrum Doloris" before.
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Castrum doloris refers to where he is laid, not to the fact he is laying in state. One could say he is laying in state in his castrum doloris. It refers to the structure and décor surrounding the funeral bier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrum_doloris

She was the apple of his eye! How she must miss her dear grandpa!

Photos of Bella and her Granpa:

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They had such a wonderful relationship. You can see in photos that she was attached to him as much as he doted on her. I am sure she is missing him very much right now.

Being the first granddaughter, with 3 boys ahead, is a special place :flowers:
 
It is stated that the court forbids any and all photography at the Castrum Doloris.

How would they actually enforce it? This day and age, anyone with a phone can whip it our for a quick selfie. Of course it requires an extraordinary lack of respect and proper upbringing - but those types are thirteen on the dozen.

Would they physically stop you (and cause a scene) or just let it go if it happened?
 
Thanks, now I understand is. The Prince is laid in state, in a chapelle ardente, where a castrum doloris is constructed. It is beautifully done. Not too heavy but with eye for esthetics.
 
nwinther said:
It is stated that the court forbids any and all photography at the Castrum Doloris.

How would they actually enforce it? This day and age, anyone with a phone can whip it our for a quick selfie. Of course it requires an extraordinary lack of respect and proper upbringing - but those types are thirteen on the dozen.

Would they physically stop you (and cause a scene) or just let it go if it happened?
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Maybe someone would approach you and remind you kindly NOT to take pictures, but I'm sure that the level of civilization and politeness in Denmark is such that not many would try to be that disrespectful. In other countries...well, it's another matter. When Pope John Paul II lied in St. Peter, it was absolutely despicable to see how many people just walked by making video, taking selfies...I feel that smartphones (and no, I do not own one and I survive) have brought a level of rudeness which is appalling. Don't get me started...!:bang: Yesterday, I was watching old footage of F&M's wedding and after a while I noticed, looking at the crowd that...there were no smartphones! No selfies! People were actually LOOKING! And maybe taking a couple of pictures, yes, but actually living the event! Sorry...I'm getting OT. I just hope PH's is given the respect he is due. I'm glad the RF has forbidden pictures. Good for them. Not that they would care, but they have my entire support.

Duc_et_Pair said:
Thanks, now I understand is. The Prince is laid in state, in a chapelle ardente, where a castrum doloris is constructed. It is beautifully done. Not too heavy but with eye for esthetics.
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I agree, elegantly done.
 
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nwinther said:
It is stated that the court forbids any and all photography at the Castrum Doloris.

How would they actually enforce it? This day and age, anyone with a phone can whip it our for a quick selfie. Of course it requires an extraordinary lack of respect and proper upbringing - but those types are thirteen on the dozen.

Would they physically stop you (and cause a scene) or just let it go if it happened?
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Nice to see you back, nwinther ?

In the TV2 live clip I posted a link to previously, I noticed what looked like an official approaching a member of the public, who otherwise didn't seem to do anything wrong - except perhaps taking out the mobile.
I also noticed one of the officers gesturing to a member of the public.

But people who do take pictures will have their equipment confiscated. And there are lots of police officers around.
 
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I don't do funerals. However. I and my mother have always liked Her Majesty, Queen Margrethe II And Her Beloved Prince Henrik. And. Admired their love for their people.
 
 
Yes the French Napoleonic code doesn’t allow property to be divided inequally, no matter what the will says
 
The least :doh: some people can learn to do is Respect. Respect doesn't always like Cameras.
:daneflag2:
HRH Prince Henrik was a Great man, with great insight, Love for Art, Humanity, Integrity, A Caring Ambassador, A great man of honor, A Great Supporter of HM Queen Margrethe II & a wonderful Father for His children. What His family would like at these times, would be honoring his legacy, memory & support at these hard and sad moments, not a person with a camera phone.
 
Perhaps I'm wrong but Mary seems to be wearing the same brooch each day. Is it significant to Prince Henrik perhaps or is silver coloured jewellery protocol for mourning or some or no other reason.
 
Muhler said:
The in my opinion strongest image so far, and one I think I will always remember: https://app.box.com/s/nm8dz1vnaeekpc5xoe2xcj6rf158bkoj
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Yes, Muhler, I agree.

I don't want to speculate but I think QM's choice of being alone (in the car as well) is conscious and significant for the many reasons already mentioned. I would add that I'm sure she doesn't want to be pitied, appear weak or in need of support in public. She is the Queen and she is the Queen beyond the frailties and difficulties of personal life.

:daneflag2: ?

RJC said:
Perhaps I'm wrong but Mary seems to be wearing the same brooch each day. Is it significant to Prince Henrik perhaps or is silver coloured jewellery protocol for mourning or some or no other reason.
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I believe Muhler said that it was a gift from PH!
 
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Mary seems to be wearing the same brooch each day.
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Unsure of 'the form' in Denmark, but in the United Kingdom 'white jewels' [essentially Diamonds] are permitted during Mourning.
Another poster suggested that the Crown Princess received the Brooch from Prince Henrik early in her marriage ?
 
Nice gesture of her to wear this brooch all the time !
 
If Prince Henrik had a daughter he would probably have given this brooch to her.
 
I stand corrected: it was indeed Hannelore who said "I see Mary's wearing the diamond brooch she received from Henri in her early days as a princess. Appropriate." on 2/15

Here are more info from https://royalwatcherblog.com"

This diamond brooch, featuring six petals and interjacent diamonds surrounding a large central diamond. [sic] It belonged to Prince Henrik’s mother, Countess Renée-Yvonne de Laborde de Monpezat, who wore the brooch as a clasp of her pearl necklace at Queen Margrethe and Prince Henrik’s 25th Wedding Anniversary Banquet in 1992. The brooch was inherited by Prince Henrik in 2001. In 2004, Prince Henrik gave the brooch to his new daughter-in-law, Crown Princess Mary, as a wedding present. Early appearances included the 2004 Olympics, and a memorial ceremony for the victims of the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami. It was also worn to welcome the Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall to Denmark in 2012.

Pictures here: https://royalwatcherblog.com/2018/02/16/crown-princess-marys-diamond-flower-brooch/
 
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I think it's a nice gesture for Mary to wear the brooch gifted to her from Henrik. And it doesn't break funeral customs so that's a plus.
 
Have the queen's sisters or any of the Montpezats participated in the events since Henrik died?

The one that moved me was a picture of Christian looking out the window of a car, I think from Thursday or Friday. (I can't find it now.)

He looked so composed and dignified -- yet sad and concerned -- it was touching. He's at an age where he must be realizing in a more adult way both the significance of this to his family and what his future may hold.

Juliette2 said:
Yes, Muhler, I agree.

I don't want to speculate but I think QM's choice of being alone (in the car as well) is conscious and significant for the many reasons already mentioned. I would add that I'm sure she doesn't want to be pitied, appear weak or in need of support in public. She is the Queen and she is the Queen beyond the frailties and difficulties of personal life.

:daneflag2: ?
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Danes pay their respect as Prince Henrik's lying in State


Queen Margrethe leaves Christiansborg Palace Chapel

 
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