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Please stay respectful towars each other - as always opinions can differ!
Please stay respectful towars each other - as always opinions can differ!
Btw, there is so much fuss here on CW achievements that I became curious about how and where they took place. I went through the 15 pages on this thread and couldn´t find a link, picture, statement, other than wikipedia, that assured CW had won medals or championships. Could any oCharlene Wittstock | Who's Who SAf you provide believable links? I would appreciate it.
Btw, there is so much fuss here on CW achievements that I became curious about how and where they took place. I went through the 15 pages on this thread and couldn´t find a link, picture, statement, other than wikipedia, that assured CW had won medals or championships. Could any of you provide believable links? I would appreciate it.
Really? Don't be disingenuous. What you actually posted [at #273] was "Did Charlene even win a medal?! ... If you don't get a medal ... then your [sic] just one of thousands who showed up, competed, lost and went on to party."I can't believe my asking if she got a medal has turned into this.
She did not go to university.
As far as I know she continued with her swim career, on and off due to injuries, until finally retiring in 2008 when she failed to make the SA Olympic team in 2008. She has regained her national championship in backstroke in 2007 but was not chosen for the 2008 team. By that time she was involved with Albert and the rest you probably know......Princess Consort of Monaco.
Warren said:Really? Don't be disingenuous. What you actually posted [at #273] was "Did Charlene even win a medal?! ... If you don't get a medal ... then your [sic] just one of thousands who showed up, competed, lost and went on to party."
Not quite the innocent "Did Charlene win a medal?" question you're now making it out to be.
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Wouldn't even have bothered answering that question if I wad you I think the person asking already knew the answer and asked it to make a point.
At the 2002 Commonwealth Games in Manchester, Charlene was a member of the silver-medal winning 4x100m medley relay South African team (screen cap of Comm Games website with details). Here is a photo of the relay team with their silver medal - Charlene is on the left.
Actually the Palace has it as 4 Gold, and one Silver.Thank you all for the links!! I had never seen her with a medal (in a team, well, better than nothing, that´s something). But where are the 3 golden medals the palace states she won?
There should be some pics around.
11 September 1999, South African swimmer Charlene Wittstock is the first swimmer to win gold at this years All Africa Games. She won the womens 100 metres freestyle this afternoon.
Are we lost in translation here? I´m not an English native speaker, but still...I don´t know what you understand by "achievement", this is what I found, If you have a better definition please provide it.
1: the act of achieving : accomplishment
2
a : a result gained by effort
b : a great or heroic deed
3: the quality and quantity of a student's work
Examples:Achievement - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
- The discovery of DNA was a major scientific achievement.
- It was a great achievement.
- Getting the project done on time was a real achievement
Participating in Olympics is a merit and an honor after having done a great effort, but it is hardly an accomplishment/achievement. In the case of an Oscar nominee much less. I dont think they have in mind to be nominated while they are shooting, so how´can it be considered an achievement if we understand by the definition it is an action, a goal to be completed!???
As for CW leaving her career, she did nothing substantial after that.
Thank you all for the links!! I had never seen her with a medal (in a team, well, better than nothing, that´s something). But where are the 3 golden medals the palace states she won?
There should be some pics around.
Photo captionThe bio also lists her as having won the 50m and 100m crawl, which is freestyle (unless they mean 'back crawl', which would be backstroke). Charlene was a backstroke swimmer, not a freestyle swimmer and her name appears on none of the timing sheets for any freestyle event. So, the palace has made a mistake there either way - either by being wrong, or by not being specific enough.Getty Images1 September 1999, South African swimmer Charlene Wittstock swimming freestyle
Commonwealth Games Silver medalist
When a Special Olympian reaches the finishes line it is an achievement. When a young child learns to spell or write,properly, it is an achievement. Winning a gold at the All Africa Games is an achievement. And being able to swim faster than a good part of the world for an Olympic Sport is an achievement. Achievements come big and small. That you write English as well as you do is an achievement.
Swimming, is hardly a career. It is a sport and unlike basketball or baseball, no one pays money to watch swimmers. It is not that type of sport.
What have Caroline, Stephanie, Camilla or Kate to name a few have done? No royal works. Cutting ribbons and going to balls is not work. My definition.
Photo caption Getty Images
Commonwealth Games Silver medalist1 September 1999, South African swimmer Charlene Wittstock swimming freestyle
World Cup VIII meet in Stockholm, Sweden.In 2002, she won three gold medals at the swimming World Cup (50m and 100m crawl, 4x100m relay) and the silver medal during the Manchester Commonwealth Games (4x100m medley relay).
News 24 from SARelay record falls to Seagulls 2000-10-07 22:03
Wittstock teamed up with Candice Crafford, Lauren Howell and Melissa Corfe for a time of eight minutes, 29.86 seconds in winning the women's 4x200m freestyle relay event, improving a four-year-old record.
Women 800m freestyle relay: 1 Mr Price Seagulls (Candice Crafford, Lauren Howell, Melissa Corfe, Charlene Wittstock) 8:29.86, 2 Seals KZN 8:33.09, 3 Vineyard WP 8:34.00.
You're welcome. I spent a day working on it and still have more research to do. Keeping her career and facts about other aspects of her life straight I feel is important. I'm glad she is starting to speak French and its been in the press she has. If she is being interviewed for English speaking viewers I can see why she speaks English.Thank you LadyMacalpine for the big work you did. thank to you, we have a more entire look on the swimming career of Charlene Wittstock.