Tarlita
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That's an interesting review Janet and thank you for it. I would expect better than that from Mr Lacey.
If Meghan had waited until she was a British citizen before she married she would have been within hailing distance of forty years old. And she and Harry want two children, which if she had waited she would be giving birth to in her forties.
And it has been said that nobody knows what Royal life (including performing engagements) is actually like until they are in the midst of it. Harry was nearly thirty four when he married, old enough to know his own mind and to object to being lectured to by an older brother.
If in my mid thirties I'd been told to slow down before marrying the person I loved I would have told him what to do with his advice. And hardly anyone waits for eight years before marrying.
Thanks, Tarlita. Lacey lost me early on, with his nastiness about a 2 year old William's bad behaviour, as Betsypaige quoted.
And then there's this "the clan (the Middletons) are certainly neither noble or royal. They are a tribe of Internet stallholders at the end of the day - with a keen nose for profit."
What reputable biographer would write a sentence like that, just to sneer at a successful businesswoman - Michael gets a pass from Lacey; Carole and Kate don't.
So disappointing.
Thanks, Tarlita. Lacey lost me early on, with his nastiness about a 2 year old William's bad behaviour, as Betsypaige quoted.
And then there's this "the clan (the Middletons) are certainly neither noble or royal. They are a tribe of Internet stallholders at the end of the day - with a keen nose for profit."
What reputable biographer would write a sentence like that, just to sneer at a successful businesswoman - Michael gets a pass from Lacey; Carole and Kate don't.
So disappointing.
Not sure what you mean buy this last sentence.. M and H didn't get what they wanted - in that they wanted to be half in and half out of Royal life...okay - started Lacey book. I must admit I brought it on his reputation and since then have been considering if that was a wise choice.
But I fail to understand his major argument - that none of this would have happened if Harry and Meghan were treated not as minor royals. Confused at how they were treated as minor royals - but then again maybe it was that they were not allowed to have their own PR office run by an American PR firm. Or that they wanted to change the royal rota as they wanted to stop having to work with the newspapers that were publishing unfavorable articles to them.
So essentially Lacey wanted the palace to give H& M everything they wanted - as they were popular, young and appealed to a younger non - white group. My sister who read it before me, says it more that a son of Diana and a rich American of race needs to be treated differently. And therefore could not be swept under the carpet like other unneeded royals, aka - Prince Andrew, Prince Edward, Princess Anne , Princess Margaret. I wonder if M&H had the same idea in their head that they were due special treatment.
But it makes no different M&H blackmailing has worked, expecting them to get everything they want before the year is done.
His comments about Kate and her family are abhorrent ....Is there something wrong with wanting to make money to support your family? Or just to make money? Because if so, Lacey is also a raging hypocrite considering what H and M are doing.
okay - started Lacey book. I must admit I brought it on his reputation and since then have been considering if that was a wise choice.
But I fail to understand his major argument - that none of this would have happened if Harry and Meghan were treated not as minor royals. Confused at how they were treated as minor royals - but then again maybe it was that they were not allowed to have their own PR office run by an American PR firm. Or that they wanted to change the royal rota as they wanted to stop having to work with the newspapers that were publishing unfavorable articles to them.
So essentially Lacey wanted the palace to give H& M everything they wanted - as they were popular, young and appealed to a younger non - white group. My sister who read it before me, says it more that a son of Diana and a rich American of race needs to be treated differently. And therefore could not be swept under the carpet like other unneeded royals, aka - Prince Andrew, Prince Edward, Princess Anne , Princess Margaret. I wonder if M&H had the same idea in their head that they were due special treatment.
But it makes no different M&H blackmailing has worked, expecting them to get everything they want before the year is done.
Apparently some consider it indicates more class to inherit your money, rather than make it yourself.
I must say, Lacey’s take on Tiaragate makes more sense than previously reported elsewhere. Queen Mary was known to purchase Romanov jewels from various emigre family members, which the current queen continues to wear with regularity. Thus, it was not being Russian that was the issue, but how it was obtained. Many Romanov jewels were stolen by unscrupulous Bolsheviks and surreptitiously sold for their personal profit. If Queen Mary’s known passion for jewels led her to purchase one of these purloined treasures, I can indeed see the problem. Especially since Queen Mary’s husband has been accused of not doing enough to save the Czar’s family from being slaughtered.
His comments about Kate and her family are abhorrent ....Is there something wrong with wanting to make money to support your family? Or just to make money? ...
He is just regurgitating the old-fashioned aristocratic despise for "tradesmen".
Apparently some consider it indicates more class to inherit your money, rather than make it yourself.
He is just regurgitating the old-fashioned aristocratic despise for "tradesmen".
Sad to see a historian who would hold those views in the 21st century.There are many of the married in members of the BRF do come from a middle class background: Sophie, Catherine, Meghan, Brigitte, and Timothy among them.
From what I've read in several articles (won't buy the book), I kinda feel that some points he made seems to fit C-A better than W-H.I’m cracking up at your “I have your back” line, lol - that probably is how
Lacey would interpret it. His interpretation of William’s comment is insanely ludicrous, and is a perfect example of not just his bias, but also what this book is ...
Given that Lacey seems to be rather harsh on Charles in the book, I wouldn’t be shocked if he blamed him for Andrew’s issues.
Well, he does follow a very typical drama storyline:I am so disappointed in Lacey, I defended him on here when posters criticised his work with the series THE CROWN... my view was he was only the advisor on historical fact he had no control over the script.. perhaps he wants his book to be the basis of a film on the two princes....so it needs to be juicy.
From what I've read in several articles (won't buy the book), I kinda feel that some points he made seems to fit C-A better than W-H.
Well, he does follow a very typical drama storyline:
- rich/blue blooded man meet a commoner and their windwhirl romance
- evil older sibling, good as angel younger one
- us against the world (everyone is evil and don't like us together)
- the man leaves everything (his toxic family etc) for love and they hand in hand happily traipse to the sunset.
The End.
(Though I think nowadays ppl prefer to watch 3 dimentional character, including the villain, so Lacey better to make some change in term of character development).
On a side note, according to Lacey, W surely has so much power as 2nd in line to the throne, doesn't he? Like controlling his brother's life who was in army while he himself was also serving in RAF hence he must have some control in military (for apparently W has controlled H his whole life). Even to the point of micromanage TQ Christmas photos hence control over his grandmother and his father, not to mention BP staff (the part about W wants to send "message" to H with the photo).
Wow, I wonder how powerful he'd be when he's king
William the Puppet Master - that should be his name when he's King, lol!
I really don't see what the big deal is in being told by a sibling think twice or thrice about important life decisions. No matter the age, I would expect my own siblings to be extremely honest with me. Welcome or unwelcome, I expect them to tell me what they think and I would hope they know the advice will be taken well.
Maybe William overestimated their closeness...or his brother's maturity.
Are you serious Yukari ?
Are you serious Yukari ?
He certainly has decieved so many ppl with his innocent smile, hasn't he? Working behind the screen while using his stunning wife and cute kids to deflect everyone's attention from him. What a mastermind he is. ?
William I think was very unwise in what he did. It can be a big deal. I know of a case where one sibling warned the brother about his future Spouse and was critical of said spouse. Then a rift formed in the family and the marriage was a success and the sibling that offered advice was out in the cold. I think some would find it a big deal and I don't think it was any of Williams business. If Harry asked him for advice, fine. But William was not the one who had to approve of Meghan, that was Her Majesty the Queen. And how William broached it with Harry is known only to them, it could have been said in a tactless way to Harry. Unwanted advice is not called that for nothing. I think William did not show maturity acting that way and if it is true that he ran to CHarles Spencer for help i think that out of line.
Harry could have had reservations about Kate for all that is known but he never was said to have complained about her to William. He welcomed her with open arms.
I hope something is learned from this that advice could be interpreted as trying to come between a couple and In some cases it is.
Most people in Lacey's book did not come out looking good.
William and Harry I think were not all that close. Some of the comments William made about Harry as "jokes" had sort of an edge to them, like saying Harry snores and William has to clean up after him. If he talked that way to Harry about Meghan, as a put down that would have been very unwise.