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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    Yes but the difference is - HRH Prince Nugzar belongs to royal ancestry and David (son in law) to high-nobiliary branch of non-reigning bagrationi.
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    Relying on the royal house chancellery information I can safely declare - It is a big lie I have ever heard. There was no endorsement from Prince Nugzar. Important is that David did not signed the contract imposed both by international and dynastic law. Dear Cory, now prince David is really...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    Non of the lines are any older that any other line. So, this statement makes non sense dear Cory. I still have to remind that important is who belongs to royal line and who to cadet offshoot line First of all, the senior line is the line of the kings in a non-salic kingdom --- that is the line...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    I can not confirm, but if it so I will be glad, because every expected child in the world is pleasant and this one will not be exception. I agree, but a question is that even in married couples it is necessary to define and reveal the status of each of them. All over the world these conditions...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    Yes, that is right, she has two daughters the elder is Her Royal Highness Irine Bagrationi-Gruzinski (born 2003) and younger is Her Royal Highness Mariam Bagrationi-Gruzinski (born 2007). The children by the Georgian Royal historical rights carry the royal surname, this was also supported by the...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    Unfortunately all newspaper articles are in Georgian, so it is hard to use them as source. Dear keystone if you would really interested in Georgian royalty I could point to some websites (english), but as you said that you really do not care... so it seems useless... Thank you anyway
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    It is good to be such naive as you are "Keystone", but unfortunately they block the truth constantly... For example see georgia Copyright ©Christopher Buyers Copyright ©Christopher Buyers Note: Although the Head of the House of Bagration-Mukhranski claims to be Head of the Royal House of...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    Yes, "vsriCo", Yes... That David. Unfortunately too much falsehood on wikipedia. It is really sad...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    As for David, on Georgian national TV there was a transfer few days ago about David`s false orders and he was exposed as the charlatan and false pretender to the Georgian throne.
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    Dear "Ledy S", Such decree simply does not exist. The ruling monarch? Which monarch? You probably confuse with the project of successor Crown Prince David (son of King Giorgi XII) which was not the monarch. In project he mentions a theme of inheritance of a throne because of fear of (ex) Queen...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    The picture above taken on May 21, 2010 shows Crown Prince Nugzar addressing an important historical conference with members of the Georgian Parliament, famous historians, writers, publicists, etc. with His Royal Highness again introduced as the successor of the Georgian throne...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    This treaty made the Kingdom of Georgia a protectorate of Imperial Russia, but left its sovereignty fully and completely intact. As Johann Wolfgang Textor (1693-1771), one of the founding fathers of international law, declared: There is . . . no absurdity in the possession . . . of true rights...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    Dear wingsofsky, Thanks for your estimate. Yes of course, it is HRH Crown Prince Nugzar ! Without mention of that difficult life, which he endured during communistic epoch, notwithstanding, he received the big love and respect from an intellectual society. He is known both by the...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    About Treaty of Georgievsk However, the "Treaty of Georgievsk" of 1784, which he made with the Catherine II of Russia, made it clear that the Russian emperor was "to preserve His Serene Highness Tsar Irakli Teimurazovich and the Heirs and descendants of his House, uninterrupted on the Throne of...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    On December 5, 1946, HIH Grand Duke Vladimir Kirilovich (1917-1992) made gave an opinion, not an authoritative ruling, which has been wrongfully used to suggest that the Muhkanski branch of offshoot princes, who had no royal, collateral, or sovereign rights in the Kingdom of Georgia, were...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    Millions and millions of people have royal ancestors, but that does not make them royal. It is estimated that 80% of the original stock of Europeans are all descended from Charlemagne and Mohammed, but only .001% of them are authentic and genuine royals. The Gruzinski branch descend from every...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    giorgi says: "leonida and Kiril married in Lausanne because in Spain was not a Orthodox Church in this period..." We answer: First of all Leonida`s husband`s name was Vladimir not Kiril and secondly during that time in Spain already there was specially allocated temple for Russian colonies of...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    Dear giorgi: Please notice that the prince tells words: "I consider it right and proper to recognize..." and where is the word "lawful"? And who gave the right to Vladimir Kirilovich giving to high-nobiliary family of Bagration-Mukhranski the royal status of Gruzinski ??? He had no right to...
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    Monarchy and Restoration; Rival Families and Claimants

    Dear Benjamin, if you have noticed I too have mentioned that Maria Vladimirovna is from the MORGANATIC marriage because Princes Bagration-Muhranski were always considered as one of high-nobiliary origins of Georgia. This offshoot could not be equal in relation to Romanovs Imperial Dynasty in any...
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    Monarchy and Restoration; Rival Families and Claimants

    Why then the so-called "Imperial house of Russia" does not recognises other representatives of a House of Romanovs? Do you know the truth ? because they are considered by supporters of Maria Vladimerovna as Morganatic heirs...
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    Monarchy and Restoration; Rival Families and Claimants

    The Truth about Leonida Georgievna Kirbi (Bagration-Mukhranski). Leonida Georgievna was born 23 (on October, 6th) 1914 in Tiflis, in a family of the former leader of Dusheti district nobility of Tiflisky province., prince George Aleksandrovicha Bagration – Muhransky and of the Polish...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    The Truth about Leonida Georgievna Kirbi (Bagration-Mukhranski). Part 2. Thus Grand duke Vladimir Kirillovich - in 1948 has entered the Morganatic MARRIAGE from dissolved American civil Mrs. Leonida Kirbi, nee Bagration-Muhranski. After that marriage almost all Members of the Russian Imperial...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    The Truth about Leonida Georgievna Kirbi (Bagration-Mukhranski). Part 1. Leonida Georgievna was born 23 (on October, 6th) 1914 in Tiflis, in a family of the former leader of Dusheti district nobility of Tiflisky province., prince George Aleksandrovicha Bagration – Muhransky and of the Polish...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    Hello giorgi, If you have noticed as I wrote to Benjamin: "unfortunately plans of Patriarch have changed..." Before the wedding His Royal Highness Nugzar trusted this plan ( the child born from this marriage would have to grow up) and raised a question about legal privileges of Princess Anna...
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    Royal House of Georgia 1: Ending 2020

    Dear giorgi, I really wonder why are you so offensive and aggressive, are you hate Georgia and its royalty or what ? Or, maybe you have some personal hostility with the Royal house of Georgia ? Please feel free to explain to us and to all members of this forum the real reason of it. Actually...
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