General News for the Wales Family 2: March 2024-


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"Papa" is unusual in the UK now, even amongst the upper-classes. Most people say "dad" or "daddy". But "papa" seems to be traditional in the Royal Family. "Pa", which William uses for Charles, is even more unusual - it makes me think of Little House on the Prairie - although "grandpa" is very common. But each to their own :) .
 
Funny enough, Papa has become a pretty common nickname for grandfathers nowadays. My uncle’s grandsons call him Papa (or “Paw Paw” specifically).
 
This depends very much on your language. In German Papa is the word for Dad, and it was their German ancestors that brought this word into the BRF. As Prinsara, I believe it was Prince Albert. In German this is not a fancy word at all, but the word almost everyone uses.

As far as I know, the BRF has also used the female equivalent Mama in the past, for instance for Queen Elizabeth II.

In Swedish and Norwegian, the word is pappa, I believe.
 
In American English it's somehow gotten to be the reverse: it would be seen as a particularly countrified or very narrowly-cultured thing to call your father Papa (Mama is slightly more common); also pronounced differently (accent on the first syllable).

Not completely unknown, though: see Madonna and "Papa Don't Preach", for one example. (Although the song makes heavy use of "daddy".)

The President is known by his grandchildren as "Pop" ("Dad" to his actual kids, though), which is pretty old-school, but wouldn't be very unusual depending on where you are.
 
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Princess_Eleanor said:
This depends very much on your language. In German Papa is the word for Dad, and it was their German ancestors that brought this word into the BRF. As Prinsara, I believe it was Prince Albert. In German this is not a fancy word at all, but the word almost everyone uses.

As far as I know, the BRF has also used the female equivalent Mama in the past, for instance for Queen Elizabeth II.

In Swedish and Norwegian, the word is pappa, I believe.
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Yep. Even in the United States "mama" and "papa" are common in areas with a lot of German or Nordic ancestors. My maternal family all use "Ma" and "Papa" and their ancestors came from Austria in the late 19th century. I hear it a lot from neighbors too, and I'm from an area where a lot of people have German or Swedish surnames.
 
Alison H said:
"Papa" is unusual in the UK now, even amongst the upper-classes. Most people say "dad" or "daddy". But "papa" seems to be traditional in the Royal Family. "Pa", which William uses for Charles, is even more unusual - it makes me think of Little House on the Prairie - although "grandpa" is very common. But each to their own :) .
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They are a traditional family and their traditons are based in their "Germanness". Papa ist the German version of "Daddy".
 
There might be a better place for this, mods, but reading this in the Daily Beast made me quite angry. And they slighted the Princess of Wales not once but twice.😡
I had never noticed this bias before - sorry I can’t bold the names.

www.thedailybeast.com

Meghan Markle Didn’t Mean to Jam Up Kate Middleton’s Big Return: Source

Meghan’s team reportedly didn't set out to sabotage Kate. Plus, the very slimmed-down monarchy on the Buckingham Palace balcony, and lip-readers analyze the moving of royal mouths.
www.thedailybeast.com

“The full balcony line-up yesterday: Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, Prince George, Prince William, Prince Louis, Princess Charlotte, Kate Middleton, King Charles, Queen Camilla, Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh, Prince Edward, Lady Louise, Princess Anne, and the Duke of Kent.”

“In 2019 the balcony line out included, deep breath: Prince William, Prince Louis, Prince George, Princess Charlotte, Kate Middleton, Charles, Camilla, Princess Anne and her husband Sir Tim Laurence, Andrew, Beatrice, Eugenie, Prince Edward and Sophie, their daughter Louise and son James, Harry, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, James, Peter Philips, his then wife Autumn, their daughters Isla and Savannah Phillips, Lyla Gilman (a granddaughter of the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester) and Lady Helen Taylor (daughter of the Duke of Kent).”

Maybe others had noticed this but I had not.
 
I wouldn’t sweat it. They can try to diminish her all they want, but the truth is they can’t. All this does is highlight how unprofessional they are. This is a job. They should have standards and not the place for personal vendetta.
 
Royalist.in.NC said:
There might be a better place for this, mods, but reading this in the Daily Beast made me quite angry. And they slighted the Princess of Wales not once but twice.😡
I had never noticed this bias before - sorry I can’t bold the names.

www.thedailybeast.com

Meghan Markle Didn’t Mean to Jam Up Kate Middleton’s Big Return: Source

Meghan’s team reportedly didn't set out to sabotage Kate. Plus, the very slimmed-down monarchy on the Buckingham Palace balcony, and lip-readers analyze the moving of royal mouths.
www.thedailybeast.com

“The full balcony line-up yesterday: Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, Prince George, Prince William, Prince Louis, Princess Charlotte, Kate Middleton, King Charles, Queen Camilla, Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh, Prince Edward, Lady Louise, Princess Anne, and the Duke of Kent.”

“In 2019 the balcony line out included, deep breath: Prince William, Prince Louis, Prince George, Princess Charlotte, Kate Middleton, Charles, Camilla, Princess Anne and her husband Sir Tim Laurence, Andrew, Beatrice, Eugenie, Prince Edward and Sophie, their daughter Louise and son James, Harry, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, James, Peter Philips, his then wife Autumn, their daughters Isla and Savannah Phillips, Lyla Gilman (a granddaughter of the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester) and Lady Helen Taylor (daughter of the Duke of Kent).”

Maybe others had noticed this but I had not.
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It’s not a slight. They refer to people by how they’re best known. So Meghan is Meghan Markle and Catherine is Kate Middleton. They also don't refer to Anne as the Princess Royal, Edward as the Earl of Wessex or Duke of Edinburgh, or William as Duke of Cambridge or Prince of Wales.

Only the British media do the titles correctly.
 
Prinsara said:
It’s not a slight. They refer to people by how they’re best known. So Meghan is Meghan Markle and Catherine is Kate Middleton. They also don't refer to Anne as the Princess Royal, Edward as the Earl of Wessex or Duke of Edinburgh, or William as Duke of Cambridge or Prince of Wales.

Only the British media do the titles correctly.
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I normally agree, but I do think it’s a bit strange that Sophie and Meghan were both referred to by their titles. Kate, Princess of Wales wouldn’t be correct but would at least be consistent.

That being said, I don’t think it was intentional or a huge deal. Nothing can really take away from how lovely it was to see Catherine back on duty, and it clearly made a lot of people happy.
 
HRHHermione said:
I normally agree, but I do think it’s a bit strange that Sophie and Meghan were both referred to by their titles. Kate, Princess of Wales wouldn’t be correct but would at least be consistent.

That being said, I don’t think it was intentional or a huge deal. Nothing can really take away from how lovely it was to see Catherine back on duty, and it clearly made a lot of people happy.
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Only because they can't call her "Princess Sophie". Why use "Princess of Wales" when they didn't use "Prince" anywhere? And Meghan is certainly "Meghan Markle" for headline purposes. Getting things right or even semi-accurate is not exactly the American entertainment media's forte.
 
And on that note let's move on from this discussion and focus on the topic of this thread which is General News about the Prince and Princess of Wales and their family.
 
Ghost said:
And starting with a photo for King Charles:


www.instagram.com

The Prince and Princess of Wales on Instagram: "Happy Father’s Day, Pa. W"

669K likes, 4,061 comments - princeandprincessofwales on June 16, 2024: "Happy Father’s Day, Pa. W".
www.instagram.com www.instagram.com
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Lovely, lovely pictures. First time I saw it and I immediately read the word 'Papa' like the way they pronounce it in Downton Abbey/Bridgerton, lol 🤣.

I wonder if it's the same beach they went to when they made the video for W & C's 10th/11th anniversary (can't remember the correct one).
 
To mark the Prince of Wales' 42nd birthday today June 21, another fantastic photo (taken by the Princess of Wales on the same day as the fathers' day photo) has been released today:

www.instagram.com

The Prince and Princess of Wales on Instagram: "Happy birthday Papa, we all love you so much! Cx 📸 The Princess of Wales, 2024"

2M likes, 23K comments - princeandprincessofwales on June 21, 2024: "Happy birthday Papa, we all love you so much! Cx 📸 The Princess of Wales, 2024".
www.instagram.com www.instagram.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1804069216066146467
 
iceflower said:
To mark the Prince of Wales' 42nd birthday today June 21, another fantastic photo (taken by the Princess of Wales on the same day as the fathers' day photo) has been released today:

www.instagram.com

The Prince and Princess of Wales on Instagram: "Happy birthday Papa, we all love you so much! Cx 📸 The Princess of Wales, 2024"

2M likes, 23K comments - princeandprincessofwales on June 21, 2024: "Happy birthday Papa, we all love you so much! Cx 📸 The Princess of Wales, 2024".
www.instagram.com www.instagram.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1804069216066146467
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That is a great picture.
 
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