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Romanov Pretendes and Imposter
English translation:
Dear Emmanuel
Thanks for the update of your information.
This information is very interesting, however, may give you some more details?
What was his name when his father emigrated from Europe? What kind of passport that was the hand?
As discussed, the name, Dimitri, not on the register, and the only son of his grandfather, Mikhail, was George. What explains this? I understand the need for secrecy, however, no DNA evidence, a baptismal record or something?
Why Prince and Countess hide his birth. Was it because he knew he was possibly going to kill? How will demonstrate heridity?
I'm working on the investigation of his mother's family in Ireland. I spent so much time anceestry German, I am very confused.
I will do my best to try to understand.
Best regards,
Harry
Emmanuel Romanov September 15 at 5:41pm
Mi padre tiene el certificado de su nacimiento que tiene la prueba y la firma de ambos padres y el adn estan en los restos de mi padre como en mi sangre que no miente...
mi padre cuando emigro a gran Bretaña tenia el apellido de Romanov viajo con un pasaporte Austriaco de viena, y cuando viajo a america con el apellido de Deimond Leicester, en Brasil se puso el apellido de DA COSTA LEITE, y murio diciendo que lo unico que deseaba era que ya que la ultima ves que vio a su padre fue cuando era un niño, que deseaba ser enterrado junto a su padre y trasladar los restos de su madre a Rusia, me pidio que si fuera lo que tuviera que hacer como exumar sus restos para demostrar que era el hijo legitimo de Mikhail y Natalya, y descansar en paz.
English translation:
'My father has a birth certificate that has the proof and the signature of both parents and DNA are the remains of my father in my blood that can not lie ...
my father when he immigrated to Great Britain had the surname Romanov Austrian travel with a passport in Vienna, and when I travel to America with the surname of Leicester Deimond in Brazil was the name of DA COSTA LEITE, and died saying that the only thing wanted was that since the last time I saw her father was as a child, he wanted to be buried beside his father and transfer the remains of his mother from Russia, asked me if what he had to do as exuma their remains to prove that he was the legitimate son of Mikhail and Natalya, and rest in peace.
Emmanuel Romanov September 16 at 2:22pm
Con respecto a esta pregunta... ¿Por qué, específicamente lo que sus padres ocultar su nacimiento? ¿Fue porque sabían que pueden ser encarcelados o asesinados? ¿Cómo va a explicar su heridity? Mikhail sabia de las intenciones de los Bolchevique de asesinar a la familia Imperial Romanov, hasta el Zar Nikolai cuando su hermano le comento lo que habia averiguado Nikolai le dijo que era imposible que era tan imposible como querer transportar los Urales a cualquier parte del mundo el que los Bolcheviques que tuvieran exito en tal cosa. Pero el miedo de mi abuelo de proteger a su esposa su hijo George y el bebe que venia en camino, le dijo a su hermano que el respetaba su desicion de no creerle pero que el se iba a asegurar de proteger a su familia a costa de su propia vida y que habia desidido cuando naciera su segundo hijo fuera niño o niña, de no darlo a conocer al medio publico por la seguridad de la vida del bebe, ya que seria más facil de proteger no sabiendose de su existencia.... Y aunque tuviera que gotear su ultima gota de sangre por proteger a su pequeño George y a su amada Natalya, y a su segundo fruto de su matrimonio, mi padre.
Con respecto a mi madre ella es una Von Hohenzollern por padre y como le dije por parte de su madre es una Stewart...
Saludos Cordiales,
Emmanuel Romanov.
English translation:
Re: Romanov Family
With regard to this question ... Why, specifically what their parents conceal his birth? Was it because they knew they could be jailed or killed? How will you explain your heridity? Mikhail knew about the intentions of the Bolsheviks to kill the Imperial Romanov family, to the Tsar Nikolai when his brother told him what he had learned Nikolai said it was impossible it was as impossible as trying to carry the Urals to anywhere in the world that the Bolsheviks were successful in that. But the fear of my grandfather to protect his wife and baby son George who was on the way, he told his brother that he respected his decision to not believe him but that he would ensure to protect your family at the expense of his own life and that he had desidido when his second son was born child, not made known to the public means for the safety of your baby's life, and it would be easier to protect not knowing of their existence .... And if he had to dribble his last drop of blood to protect her little George and his beloved Natalya, and his second fruit of their marriage, my father.
With respect to my mother she is a von Hohenzollern by father and told by her mother is a Stewart ...
Best regards,
Emmanuel Romanov.
I do not believe the history books will be able to tell us how many times the family visited.
4. I have stated, with the facts that have been given, that the GD paid for a couple to take the baby out, and take it to Natalya. That is what they did...
5. It has been state in the variuos communication, that Emmanuel's father was in fear of persecution. As we know through the history of this time, Any hopes that Michael might be able to assume the throne, following the election of the Assembly, were overtaken by events. His renunciation of the throne, though conditional, marked the end of the Tsarist regime in Russia. Given that he never ruled, and reigned for at most a few hours, his brother Nicholas II is regarded as the last actual, or de facto Emperor, while Michael's "reign" is relegated to a largely forgotten footnote of history.
You have stated, that there were plenty of others. Well, not for those who were living the nightmare! The legality of the heir apparent, was already switched to the GD. So, in fact, he and his family were the heir apparents. How do we know what was racing through their minds? We can only wonder...
6. I am not convinced, at this time, that we are on the wrong track, as you have stated. I recommend we use more facts here than logic, for there is never accumulated logic during a revolution or war. One might think they have a strategy, then it may be thrown off by just the slightest turn of events.
I do understand your statements, however, we must look beyond what historic facts have been put together on this particular time in Russian history. I believe that his story has added a significant chapter for the family archives, in the very least, if it is true. Let us give it a bit more time. And while we wait, if there are any specific questions that you wish answers to, please feel free to ask them.
Best regards,
HMB
English translation:
Dear Emmanuel
Thanks for the update of your information.
This information is very interesting, however, may give you some more details?
What was his name when his father emigrated from Europe? What kind of passport that was the hand?
As discussed, the name, Dimitri, not on the register, and the only son of his grandfather, Mikhail, was George. What explains this? I understand the need for secrecy, however, no DNA evidence, a baptismal record or something?
Why Prince and Countess hide his birth. Was it because he knew he was possibly going to kill? How will demonstrate heridity?
I'm working on the investigation of his mother's family in Ireland. I spent so much time anceestry German, I am very confused.
I will do my best to try to understand.
Best regards,
Harry
Emmanuel Romanov September 15 at 5:41pm
Mi padre tiene el certificado de su nacimiento que tiene la prueba y la firma de ambos padres y el adn estan en los restos de mi padre como en mi sangre que no miente...
mi padre cuando emigro a gran Bretaña tenia el apellido de Romanov viajo con un pasaporte Austriaco de viena, y cuando viajo a america con el apellido de Deimond Leicester, en Brasil se puso el apellido de DA COSTA LEITE, y murio diciendo que lo unico que deseaba era que ya que la ultima ves que vio a su padre fue cuando era un niño, que deseaba ser enterrado junto a su padre y trasladar los restos de su madre a Rusia, me pidio que si fuera lo que tuviera que hacer como exumar sus restos para demostrar que era el hijo legitimo de Mikhail y Natalya, y descansar en paz.
English translation:
'My father has a birth certificate that has the proof and the signature of both parents and DNA are the remains of my father in my blood that can not lie ...
my father when he immigrated to Great Britain had the surname Romanov Austrian travel with a passport in Vienna, and when I travel to America with the surname of Leicester Deimond in Brazil was the name of DA COSTA LEITE, and died saying that the only thing wanted was that since the last time I saw her father was as a child, he wanted to be buried beside his father and transfer the remains of his mother from Russia, asked me if what he had to do as exuma their remains to prove that he was the legitimate son of Mikhail and Natalya, and rest in peace.
Emmanuel Romanov September 16 at 2:22pm
Con respecto a esta pregunta... ¿Por qué, específicamente lo que sus padres ocultar su nacimiento? ¿Fue porque sabían que pueden ser encarcelados o asesinados? ¿Cómo va a explicar su heridity? Mikhail sabia de las intenciones de los Bolchevique de asesinar a la familia Imperial Romanov, hasta el Zar Nikolai cuando su hermano le comento lo que habia averiguado Nikolai le dijo que era imposible que era tan imposible como querer transportar los Urales a cualquier parte del mundo el que los Bolcheviques que tuvieran exito en tal cosa. Pero el miedo de mi abuelo de proteger a su esposa su hijo George y el bebe que venia en camino, le dijo a su hermano que el respetaba su desicion de no creerle pero que el se iba a asegurar de proteger a su familia a costa de su propia vida y que habia desidido cuando naciera su segundo hijo fuera niño o niña, de no darlo a conocer al medio publico por la seguridad de la vida del bebe, ya que seria más facil de proteger no sabiendose de su existencia.... Y aunque tuviera que gotear su ultima gota de sangre por proteger a su pequeño George y a su amada Natalya, y a su segundo fruto de su matrimonio, mi padre.
Con respecto a mi madre ella es una Von Hohenzollern por padre y como le dije por parte de su madre es una Stewart...
Saludos Cordiales,
Emmanuel Romanov.
English translation:
Re: Romanov Family
With regard to this question ... Why, specifically what their parents conceal his birth? Was it because they knew they could be jailed or killed? How will you explain your heridity? Mikhail knew about the intentions of the Bolsheviks to kill the Imperial Romanov family, to the Tsar Nikolai when his brother told him what he had learned Nikolai said it was impossible it was as impossible as trying to carry the Urals to anywhere in the world that the Bolsheviks were successful in that. But the fear of my grandfather to protect his wife and baby son George who was on the way, he told his brother that he respected his decision to not believe him but that he would ensure to protect your family at the expense of his own life and that he had desidido when his second son was born child, not made known to the public means for the safety of your baby's life, and it would be easier to protect not knowing of their existence .... And if he had to dribble his last drop of blood to protect her little George and his beloved Natalya, and his second fruit of their marriage, my father.
With respect to my mother she is a von Hohenzollern by father and told by her mother is a Stewart ...
Best regards,
Emmanuel Romanov.
I do not believe the history books will be able to tell us how many times the family visited.
4. I have stated, with the facts that have been given, that the GD paid for a couple to take the baby out, and take it to Natalya. That is what they did...
5. It has been state in the variuos communication, that Emmanuel's father was in fear of persecution. As we know through the history of this time, Any hopes that Michael might be able to assume the throne, following the election of the Assembly, were overtaken by events. His renunciation of the throne, though conditional, marked the end of the Tsarist regime in Russia. Given that he never ruled, and reigned for at most a few hours, his brother Nicholas II is regarded as the last actual, or de facto Emperor, while Michael's "reign" is relegated to a largely forgotten footnote of history.
You have stated, that there were plenty of others. Well, not for those who were living the nightmare! The legality of the heir apparent, was already switched to the GD. So, in fact, he and his family were the heir apparents. How do we know what was racing through their minds? We can only wonder...
6. I am not convinced, at this time, that we are on the wrong track, as you have stated. I recommend we use more facts here than logic, for there is never accumulated logic during a revolution or war. One might think they have a strategy, then it may be thrown off by just the slightest turn of events.
I do understand your statements, however, we must look beyond what historic facts have been put together on this particular time in Russian history. I believe that his story has added a significant chapter for the family archives, in the very least, if it is true. Let us give it a bit more time. And while we wait, if there are any specific questions that you wish answers to, please feel free to ask them.
Best regards,
HMB