King and Queen visit to Italy April 6-8


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The King and Queen will pay a state visit to Italy

More details about the program in norwegian

kongehuset.no - Statsbesøk til Italia: Akkreditering

"The visit starts in Rome Wednesday, April 6 with an official welcome ceremony at the Presidential Palace (Palazzo del Quirinale), which President Sergio Mattarella welcomes. Moreover, the King and Queen have an official conversation and lunch with Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, meet Senate President Pietro Grasso and the President of the National Assembly, Laura Boldrini. On the 6th of April, the King and Queen meet Norwegian press. The day ends with state banquet where President Mattarella hosts.

Thursday 7 April, the royal couple include adding a wreath at the Unknown Soldier, meet Rome's acting mayor and attend a lunch where ambassador Grydeland hosts. This afternoon, the royal couple on to Milan.

Friday April 8, the King and Queen and Petroleum and Energy Tord Lien attend an Italian-Norwegian energy seminar on the green shift. Moreover, the King and Queen meet Norwegian designers studying at Bocconi University. The designers participating in global entrepreneurship program for Norwegian fashion industry in Milan. King and Queen will also be present at an event where Norwegian entrepreneurs to present themselves to Italian investors and business. Then the King and Queen attend a preview of the two Norwegian design exhibition «Structure - Norwegian contemporary crafts and design" and "Inside Wood." The visit concluded with a meeting with the press at design exhibitions."
 
the program for the state visit
Their Majesties The King and Queen visit Italy 6 - 8 April.


06.04.2016 Welcoming ceremony Their Majesties The King and Queen are officially welcomed to Italy by His Excellency President Sergio Mattarella and his daughter Ms Laura Mattarella outside Palazzo del Quirinale, Rome.

06.04.2016 Meeting Their Majesties The King and Queen meet with His Excellency President Sergio Mattarella (Palazzo del Quirinale, Rome).

06.04.2016 Official luncheon Their Majesties The King and Queen attend an official luncheon hosted by the Prime Minister of Italy, Mr Matteo Renzi, in his residence, Palazzo Chigi, Rome.

06.04.2016 Meeting Their Majesties The King and Queen meet with Mr Pietro Grasso, President of the Italian senate, and Ms Maria Fedele (Palazzo Giustiniani, Rome).

06.04.2016 Meeting Their Majesties The King and Queen meet with Ms Laura Boldrini, President of the Chamber of Deputies in the Italian senate (Palazzo Montecitorio, Rome).

06.04.2016 Official dinner Their Majesties The King and Queen attend a state dinner hosted by His Excellency President Sergio Mattarella (Palazzo del Quirinale, Rome).


07.04.2016 Seminar Their Majesties The King and Queen attend the seminar "Italian-Norwegian Energy Dialogue: Solutions for the Future" in Milan.

07.04.2016 Wreath laying ceremony His Majesty The King lays a wreath at the grave of the unknown soldier at Altare della Patria in Rome. Her Majesty The Queen will also be in attendance.

07.04.2016 Meeting Their Majesties The King and Queen meet with Commissioner Francesco Paolo Tronca, the acting Mayor of Rome (Palazzo Senatorio, Rome).

07.04.2016 Forum Romanum Their Majesties The King and Queen visit Forum Romanum (Rome).

07.04.2016 Reception Their Majesties The King and Queen attend a reception hosted by the Norwegian ambassador, His Excellency Mr Bjørn Trygve Grydeland, in honour of the state visit.


08.04.2016 Seed Forum Their Majesties The King and Queen attend Seed Forum Norway's first meeting in Italy (Milan).

08.04.2016 Norwegian fashion industry Their Majesties The King and Queen attend a presentation of the programme "Global Entrepreneurship for Norwegian Fashion Industry", Milan.

08.04.2016 Business luncheon Their Majesties The King and Queen attend a luncheon with representatives for Italian and Norwegian businesses, Milan

08.04.2016 Norwegian craft and design Their Majesties The King and Queen visit the exhibitions "Structure - Norwegian Contemporary Crafts and Design" and "Inside Wood", Milan.
 
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Hello everyone...


Here is a video of the arrival / welcoming ceramony of The King and Queen of Norway outside the Palazzo del Quirinale, Rome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ_saUbeZFw


source: the official youtube ch of the Presidenza della Repubblica Italiana


there is another one, if you'd like check the channel ;)

I hope this the right place to share the link!



Best regards,
Noura
 
Pics from the visit at the Senate

Il Presidente del Senato - Visita dei Reali di Norvegia

Pics from the visit at the Chamber of Deputies

Camera dei deputati ‏@Montecitorio La Presidente @lauraboldrini incontra il Re Harald V e la Regina Sonja di #Norvegia a Montecitorio #OpenCamera https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfXv-QNWEAEnokm.jpg ** https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfXv9z6WQAAvnFT.jpg **
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfXv-J9WwAUG_cB.jpg

First pics from the official dinner

Quirinale Uff Stampa ‏@Quirinale
Il Presidente #Mattarella in occasione del pranzo di Stato offerto al Re Harald V e la Regina Sonja di #Norvegia https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfYqnxLWsAEf7K2.jpg ** https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfYqnUoWwAYosIA.jpg
 
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I guess there was a problem with the handshakes

"Premier Italian Matteo Renzi received at Palazzo Chigi the real Norway. At the end of the Renzi honor guard he holds out his hand to Harald V, in breach of the Protocol are the real wants to extend their hand first. The King of Norway, in fact, does not reciprocate."
Matteo Renzi incontra Harald V re di Norvegia. Cerca la stretta di mano, ma il sovrano non contraccambia (VIDEO)

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/4188540/images/o-RENZI-HARALD-facebook.jpg
http://www.ilgiornale.it/sites/defa.../public/foto/2016/04/06/1459971120-matteo.jpg
http://images.roma.corriereobjects....re_norvegia_mano_656_ori_crop_MASTER__0x0.jpg
 
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I guess there was a problem with the handshakes

Not only did he commit a faux pas when extending his hand, inviting the King to shake it, but he tried to recover from it by moving his hand to the back of the King, which is an additional error in protocol.

Now, the King and royals in general are not overly fussed about these things, unless they place them in awkward situations, because people in general struggle with basic etiquette these days, but as the Italian reaction indicates, one would expect a Prime Minister to have been properly briefed and prepared with regards to protocol.
 
King Harald praises Italy's efforts for the boat refugees - Norway Today

The Royal House of Norway - State Visit to Italy

The state banquet:

http://www.seher.no/imgfly/869/488/...mages/article/14/_K5P4110_0.jpg?itok=Bqixf-5-

http://blogg.tv2.no/kongebloggen/files/2016/04/tb0a2776.jpg

The President's speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc9BfEBI2X8
Italias statsminister ville håndhilse, men det var ikke kong Harald interessert i
The Italian Prime Minister wanted to shake hands, but King Harald wasn't interested in doing that.

Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi stretched out his hand, but King Harald wouldn't greet him.

Both King Harald and Queen Sonja are visiting Italy. A video where the Prime Minister is trying to shake hands with the king, but is rejected, has spread rapidly in the Italian media.

Against the rules

The reason is that this conflicts with the royal etiquette, which says it is the royal who shall stretch forward the hand first, according to the largest newspaper in Italy La Repubblica.

Many have responded to the incident. Both Huffington Post It, ImolaOggi, Il Secolo Xix and Supernoticias have discussed the situation. The debate has also flourished among Italians on Twitter.

Deputy Head of Communications at the Royal Palace Sven Gj. Gjeruldsen denies that the king refused to shake hands.

It is wrong

''It's not true that they didn't shook hands. I know that the Prime Minister didn't try to shake hands in the video'', Gjeruldsen says to Nettavisen.

Gjeruldsen is in Italy with the royal couple and says that King Harald shake hands with Renzi when he arrived at Palazzo Chigi earlier in the day.

As an expert said tonight: This is nonsense - King Harald is not a person who cares about etiquette/protocol and he has been the first to shake hands several times before.
 
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Strange protocol: The italian president´s daughter, acting as first lady, standing first (!) in line, and not last, at the right hand of Queen Sonja at the shaking-hands-line (the "defilée") before the banquet...?!
Normally it is this way: 1st the host, then the principle guest, 3rd in line the guest´s spouse and last the hosts spouse!

Very rude not to "flank" the royal couple!
 
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People/media here in Norway are generally not interested in state visits to other countries, but this time both NRK and TV2 have followed the King/Queen to Italy, and we've got several updates on TV. Videos of this is as usual not posted online.

But we have the President's youtube account - day 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C3uSVUuhFo
 
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Strange protocol: The italian president´s daughter, acting as first lady, standing first (!) in line, and not last, at the right hand of Queen Sonja at the shaking-hands-line (the "defilée") before the banquet...?!
Normally it is this way: 1st the host, then the principle guest, 3rd in line the guest´s spouse and last the hosts spouse!

Very rude not to "flank" the royal couple!

I believe the president's daughter stepped in as 'first lady' as the president's wife died several years ago. Whilst that is indeed the normal protocol for formal pictures it has been broken plenty of times before by real full time first ladies and presidents amongst others. Personally I dont think in this case its a big deal, maybe the presidents daughter was nervous?
 
Its quite customary, if a president/head of state is a bachelor/widow for an adult daughter or in absence of that, a sister, to stand in as first lady. James Buchanan had a niece who served as first lady. Grover Cleveland's sister Rose served until he married.

It may have been a bit of nerves, new to protocol. I am sure it was not at all meant as a snub.
 
Its quite customary, if a president/head of state is a bachelor/widow for an adult daughter or in absence of that, a sister, to stand in as first lady. James Buchanan had a niece who served as first lady. Grover Cleveland's sister Rose served until he married.

It may have been a bit of nerves, new to protocol. I am sure it was not at all meant as a snub.



I know all that. That is not what I meant. But it is more than odd that a first lady of a hosting country is the first person in line to be greeted at the defilée - and I think it´s a quite strange thing to do.:ermm:
Well, a bit of typical italian "creative" chaotisism?
 
King Harald has been political.
Albeit in line with the current government, the majority in the Parliament and I think it is safe to say, in line with the majority of Norwegians.
But nevertheless political.
- Or rather he didn't dodge a controversial question.

Det norske kongehus blander sig i flygtningedebatten: 'Vi kan ikke tage imod hele Afrika!'
Kong Harald: – Vi kan ikke ta imot hele Afrika | ABC Nyheter

He was asked to comment on the current refugee crisis in Europe and many refugees have Italy as first point of entry.
King Harald said: "I think Europe currently is doing all that is possible. Whether that is enough or not is debatable. But we must try and do something there where the origin of the crisis comes from, in order for it to stop. In the end that must be the solution. We can't accept/receive all of Africa. That doesn't work".

He got immediate backing from the government.
Kongen: – Vi kan ikke ta imot hele Afrika - Kongehuset - VG
The Minister for Integration supports the King and praise him for being so clear and easy to understand in his statement. There was no need for moderating that statement.

Experts are as always popping up, when such things happen.
Kong Harald om flyktningkrisen: – Vi kan ikke ta imot hele Afrika - Aftenposten
Here a professor explains the obvious, that the King was very direct in his reply, and that he could have been more diplomatic.

- I also think it's safe to say King Harald didn't insult his Italian hosts with that statement either.
 
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A response to Muhler's post:

The King sees it as his role to be ''the glue in society'' and he's been called Norway's moral leader.

He's been a champion for the weak in society and here are some examples:

He fights for children/adults who is being bullied at school/work.
He fights for children/adults who are victims of abuse/violence.
He fights for drug addicts and many others.
He's speaking about them in his New Year's Speeches, in interviews and receives them at the palace.

It's therefore no surprise that he's concerned about the refugee crisis as well, and he has talked about it several times, so this is nothing new.

When he visited the new arrival center for refugees in Råde last year, he said that ''We must do what we can to help them, but he also said that we cant take in 5 million people here, because we aren't more than 5.'' He was accused of being too kind after saying this and was criticized by some politicians, but as experts says, he's never interfered in party political issues.

Article/video from the visit to Råde here:
Kongeparet: Vi må gjøre det vi kan for flyktningene - NRK Norge - Oversikt over nyheter fra ulike deler av landet
 
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