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  1. Anna was Franziska

    Identification of the remains found in 2007: Alexei and Marie (Coble, 2009)

    There isn't any sinister meaning behind anything that's missing, bodies do deteriorate and decay in the ground after many decades, especially in a bog. Also, in the case of the Romanovs, acid was poured all over them, so the parts that got the most acid would have dissolved faster than those...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    I never mentioned you by name or said all AA supporters thought the same thing, as I posted, I know what you said. But since there is no proof or even reason to believe 'something happened' how do you know something did? Are you openly stating that comments from this or that person that may...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    You have stated here on this forum before you believed there to be 'anomalies' with the DNA. Someone other than me asked you what you meant by that but you were unable to elaborate. If you really read up on DNA, you'll know that there is no such thing as an 'anomaly' that would cause all four...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    That's my point. He didn't cme to pal around with the kids, and didn't know them very well. You are the one who says he was a supporter! As I was saying...where else? Can you post a list of those who signed? And there are loads of other comments against her from 'people who were there.' As I...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    The most important thing to remember here is that AA has already been proven not to be AN. This means we can figure a lot of things out based on that reality. Unless Chat can tell us why the tests are not valid his old commentary is useless.
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    I'd investigate,too, and find out what was going on. Exactly what I meant by 'on business.' However he was far from the most used or important ones, his name is barely mentioned, sometimes never, in real lists of those close to the Tsar. Anything someone there on business would do would not...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    As Olga wrote in a 1928 letter, "our cousin Andre must have some vile motives to side against us." Perhaps she felt, as I do, that he was in on AA's charade for some gain of his own. Things that need to be considered about him: 1. His family, the Vladmirovichi, were persona non grata and even...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    BECAUSE SHE WASN'T REALLY ANASTASIA! Some may have just been wrong, while others were lying and/or greedy. Everyone claiming to tell a tale of AA's "escape" WAS A LIAR since it DID NOT HAPPEN. Why would they lie? $= greed. She did not! Don't make me post for the hundreth time all the quotes...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Just as I said, you post a lot of things from when she was still humoring her and feeling sorry for her. She said other things you ignore. Rathlef is an AA supporter who was selling stories, I do not trust her. And even you admit Olga did not read the manuscript through because she couldn't...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Yes it sure is the same old, from you. You always accuse Olga of 'turning her back' on AA and denying her for money after Xenia told her to stop (your story, not the reality that she just plain realized she wasn't her niece) Every time I post Olga's anti AA quotes you post ones where she...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Just what I said you'd say, what you always say. Then how can you deny it? What are your grounds for denial if you know nothing about it? Your own sad desire for AA to be AN? She had to be because you want her to be? Is that all? Reputable source to everything I called a lie: THE DNA! AA was...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    I HAVE backed them up with the FACT that AA WAS NOT AN therefore the stories did not happen aka LIES! With the nurse, I'm willing to go out on a long limb and say AA did say those things to her but AFTER she came out with Clara in early 1922. Years later, people do get dates wrong, so it's...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    As I was saying...supporters. The people I posted mostly knew AN personally and had a very different view. As for Lavington, in Welch's book, it tells how she believed AA looked exactly like FS and that her faith was shaken. Ridiculous? It's very obvious. There was supposedly a lot of money...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Ever since reading "Lost Fortune of the Tsars" I have been thinking a lot about the money aspect of the AA case. It's really interesting that those who still deny the DNA results have mentioned- or even if they haven't, they have to think it, why else doubt them- that someone did a 'swap' or...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Remember that the parents were (at the time) supporters, so they would take her side. Since their son, and the Von Kliests' daughter both could see AA was a total fake as a Russian GD, it does seem the younger generations were not quite so easily fooled. Could this be they had less 'wishful...
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    Russian Noble and Princely Families

    Dmitri's son, Paul, was for several years the mayor of Palm Beach, Fl. He passed in 2004.
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Thank you! That is what I always try to say whenever he goes 'because you say so.' Maybe it will help that others know this too. It's not me, it's the reality of the DNA testing. Neither was AA. She never mastered English, not even after coming to the US! Listen to her tapes and videos! Also...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Because Chat it did not happen. AA never claimed to be Anastasia until after she was turned down as Tatiana in 1922. Just like the Heinrich K. story is false, the entire escape story, the 'crossing of the Dnieper', and the alleged sighting of FS going to England. All these things were used to...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Again: she did NOT hear anything in the fall of 1921. The date was either wrong ,and it happened after AA's claim began, or it was completely fabricated in cahoots with Fallows to help her cause with a promise of a payoff from Grandanor.The fact that she told the paper 1922 and then tried to...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    There were also quotes by people against her. In every court case, one side turns out to be wrong. In this case, it was the AA side who was wrong. There is also a lot of evidence from 'people who were there' that is very much against her. You may call them liars, just as I doubt the word of...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Chat, no matter how many times you keep repeating decades old quotes and your personal version of the truth, it's NEVER going to turn real. It's over, AA has been proven not to be AN and therefore everyone who was helping her was either a liar or made a mistake. None of those old comments mean...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    It is impossible because it goes against REALITY. AA did NOT come out as a GD until she was "Tatiana" in 1922. I have explained all this before. Either the story did not happen or the dates were wrong, and the date given of 1922 was correct and later changed to help AA's case, but it makes no...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Bear, what I'm saying about the timeline is that things that are shaky and unprovable should not be included unless they have an added disclaimer that someone ALLEGEDLY said it or ALLEGEDLY claimed. Look at the TV news, even people caught standing over a body with a gun who confess to the crime...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Bear, digging up Chat's old posts will not help anything. We've all seen them numerous times, I'm not impressed. Just because people try to blame things on the printer doesn't mean it's true, it only makes them sound more like they're making excuses. I am done with the nurse story. It could...
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    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    For those who forgot it after it was lost when the threads merged, here's Clara's account of AA's story. It's easy to see why this fantastic tale was later discarded in favor of versions added by Von Kliest and eventually perfected into something more 'believable' and sympathetic by the...
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