Luxembourg Succession & Titles


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Interesting question about the title. The reason for the claim is that Grand Duchess Charlotte was married to prince Felix of Bourbon-Parma. So, from that perspective her descendants in male-line in approved marriages would be prince(sse)s of Bourbon-Parma as well. The current head of the family is Carlos who fought in Dutch court against his own out-of-wedlock son to not get the princely title, so he surely would not approve of this use by Gabriel.
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The difference between Carlos's out-of-wedlock son and Gabriel is that Gabriel's parents eventually married, which under Luxembourg law (and the laws of most countries, I think) legitimated him.

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So, unless the title was also incorporated in the Luxembourgian nobility as a separate title which regulates that out-of-wedlock children also have a right to this title, it seems unlikely that he has a right to this title. He was only granted the title 'prince of Nassau' at some point by his grandfather.
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Prince Felix was indeed incorporated into the Luxembourg nobility, as "Félix Marie Vincent Prince of Bourbon of Parma", the day before his marriage to Grand Duchess Charlotte. Unfortunately, the letters patent (which I assume would contain the details of how his title was to be transmitted) don't appear to be accessible online.

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Thank you all for contributing infos about the title issue. It is new but typical for Tessy to use that title for her sons now after most family members are not using it.
 
But didn’t the Grand Duke niece Archduchess Gabriella have a daughter with then fiancée a prince of bourbon Parma before they eventually married and their daughter is styled as princess of bourbon Parma?
 
Yes she married Prince Henri of Bourbon Parma and their children are styled as princesses of Bourbon Parma because of their father, not because of Archduchess Gabriella.
 
duke of poliganc said:
But didn’t the Grand Duke niece Archduchess Gabriella have a daughter with then fiancée a prince of bourbon Parma before they eventually married and their daughter is styled as princess of bourbon Parma?
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Yes, they married, so the child born before the marriage is legitimated. Whether the marriage between Gabriella and Henri was approved by Carlos is unknown, but he's not as strict regarding marriage equality as his father was (and Gabriella would definitely qualify as an equal bride).
 
crm2317 said:
Yes she married Prince Henri of Bourbon Parma and their children are styled as princesses of Bourbon Parma because of their father, not because of Archduchess Gabriella.
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Yes, my example was just about the house of bourbon Parma giving the title of prince/ss to children born before their parents marriage.
 
duke of poliganc said:
Yes, my example was just about the house of bourbon Parma giving the title of prince/ss to children born before their parents marriage.
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Did we ever see official confirmation regarding the girl's pre-marriage title or was it just what was communicated by her close family?
 
JR76 said:
Did we ever see official confirmation regarding the girl's pre-marriage title or was it just what was communicated by her close family?
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Before her parents' marriage, the grand-ducal court referred to her as "daughter Victoria", while her Limburg Stirum cousins were referred to in the same press release by their Count titles.

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98e anniversaire de Son Altesse Royale le Grand-Duc Jean | Cour grand-ducale

Son Altesse Royale le Grand-Duc Jean, né au Château de Berg le 5 janvier 1921, célébrera ce samedi ses 98 ans.
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After her parents' marriage, the grand-ducal court named her as H.R.H. Princess Victoria of Bourbon of Parma.

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Retrouvailles familiales au Château de Berg | Cour grand-ducale

LL.AA.RR. le Grand-Duc et la Grande-Duchesse ont accueilli la Famille grand-ducale au Château de Berg pour des retrouvailles en amont du concert commémorant le 100e anniversaire de naissance de S.A.R. le Grand-Duc Jean
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Interestingly, the way they addressed Marie-Christine also changed from S.A.I.R. la Comtesse Marie-Christine de Limburg-Stirum to S.A.I.R. l'Archiduchesse Marie-Christine d'Autriche.
 
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