German and Austrian Royal and Noble Jewels 1: Ending 2021


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Marc23 said:
Does anyone know, could this be one same tiara, here worn by Princess Adelheid of Priussia, born von Sachsen-Meiningen and Archduchess Regina of Austria, born Princess von Sachsen-Meiningen?

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/15/64/ff/1564fff7c0dbe445163230fb573da82e.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/v87kg.jpg

It was later worn by some other Habsburg ladies, Archduchess Monika, Regina's daughter and Archduchess Francesca, her daughter in law.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/7d/20/a6/7d20a68c8cdf5417717aee30d7a1bdc5--royal-tiaras-royal-jewels.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/10xennm.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/2rxvdxu.jpg

What do you think?
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There's definitely a resemblance
 
What a great find! I can see the resemblance too: the amount of pearls, the openness of the piece and the height. At the RJWMB they are speculating that the tiara may have been the base of a larger one and got modified over the years.
 
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Marengo said:
What a great find! I can see the resemblance too: the amount of pearls, the openness of the piece and the height. At the RJWMB they are speculating that the tiara may have been the base of a larger one and got modified over the years.
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Yes, I know. For years I tried to become a member there(RJWMB), but somehow I just can't. :( That's why I posted my thoughts here.

The speculation about Regina's jewels made me think about what I noticed. There is also one other pastel portrait of Princess Adelheid of Saxe-Meiningen wearing the same bandeau tiara.
 
Great find, Marc23! The bandeau pictured in the portrait of Princess Adelheid looks definitely like the bandeau worn by AD Regina and Francesca. On the RJWMB they speculate that this is the base of Empress Zita's tiara, but imho the resemblance is only vague. There are no pearls in Zita's tiara, eg., but there are in Adelheid's bandeau. And as Marengo already pointed out, the number of pearls, the proportions and the spacing are a match.

The portrait of Princess Adelheid looks like early twentieth century, when smaller bandeau tiaras had become en vogue. So it could very well be jewel that designed as a bandeau, and not just a base of a bigger tiara.
 
The bandeau's look reallythe same but how would it come from Princess Adelheid to Archduchess Regina? Adelheid had children herself.
 
Stefan said:
The bandeau's look reallythe same but how would it come from Princess Adelheid to Archduchess Regina? Adelheid had children herself.
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Well, Adelheid was Regina's aunt. Maybe the tiara actually belonged to Regina's grandmother and Adelheid's mother, Princess Adelheid zur Lippe. She died only in 1948 and after her death Regina might have inherited it, while Adelheid of Prussia might have borrowed her mother's jewels to wear for the portrait. If u can, please post Adelheid's portrait to RJWMB, maybe someone will find the connection.
 
Stefan said:
The bandeau's look reallythe same but how would it come from Princess Adelheid to Archduchess Regina? Adelheid had children herself.
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Dear Stefan, thank you so much for posting pic of Adelheid on other jewels board and maybe gathering some other thoughts about this piece of jewel. :)
 
The Hesse Star Tiara
The Daily Diadem: The Hesse Star Tiara | The Court Jeweller

The Chaumet Waterfall Tiara of Katharina, Countess Henckel von Donnersmarck
https://www.royal-magazin.de/german/henkel/henckel-donnersmarck-tiara.htm

Marc23 said:
Princess Tatjana von Hessen(Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berrleburg):
https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/auersperg22/TatjanaHessen_zpsc0ae6b3f.jpg
https://s23.photobucket.com/user/auersperg22/media/TatjanaHessen_zpsc0ae6b3f.jpg.html
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Is Princess Tatjana's tiara a Hesse tiara or a Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berrleburg tiara?

Green Dresden Diamond
King Frederick Augustus II of Saxony bought the diamond in 1741.
https://www.costerdiamonds.com/blog/dresden-green-diamond
 
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Alessandra is wearing the Hanover floral tiara at her wedding.
 
Not a fan of that tiara.

LaRae
 
Alessandra looked great with this gorgeous tiara. She placed it well and chose a lovely hairstyle to go with it. Personally I think that floral tiaras are just perfect for a wedding, but also would have loved to see another Hanovarian tiara on her, especially the Brunswick tiara.
 
Marc23 said:
Princess Renata von Altenburg(Habsburg) wearing a tiara at her wedding to Eduardo de Zulueta y Dato, grandson of Eduardo Dato e Iradier, Duke of Dato and Prime minister of Spain:

https://scontent.fbeg4-1.fna.fbcdn....=9d910ac9226d47a254324d21a216e986&oe=5C176964
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Could the earrings be those worn by her mother Alice von Altenburg in this picture?
https://goo.gl/images/5Wd3tb
Alice is wearing what looks to be the same pair of earrings as above in this picture as well. Alice is the the first lady from the left sitting in the front row.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/25_rocznica_ślubu.jpg
 
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Marc23 said:
Well, to me, they look the same. Good point. :)
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I've been trying to look for the tiara among their Swedish and Habsburg relatives but no luck so far. The family was in dire needs at the time after leaving Poland and had already sold off Empress Marie Louise's Emerald Tiara at the time of the wedding so I wonder if Renate is wearing a tiara belonging to her own family. Princess Alice was living in a two room flat without a kitchen and furnished with what her relatives could spare.
 
Countess Anna Theresa von Arco-Zinneberg:

https://royalwatcherblog.com/2018/09/29/wedding-of-countess-anna-theresa-von-und-zu-arco-zinneberg/

https://www.nettyroyalblog.nl/engag...ding-in-bavaria-with-an-impressive-guestlist/

Quote from Vincent from RJMB:

"1) The tiara is made of elements of diamonds which come from princess Hélène of France, second duchess of Aoste. It was created for her daughter in law, princess Anne of France, 3rd duchess of Aoste. It belongs to the archduke of Austria-Este (Archduke Lorenz) who loaned it to his niece, Countess Anna Theresa, who is also his god-daughter.
2)The earrings belong to countess Arco (archduchess Maria Beatrice of Austria-Este. They were a wedding gift from her own parents in 1980.
3)The stars definitely did belong to empress Sissi. But they don't come from the Habsburg. They come from the Arco-Zinneberg and, before that, the Preyssing-Lictenegg-Moos family. Count Riprand's grand mother, princess Gundelinde of Bavaria who married a count von Preyssing-Lichtenegg-Moos, received them from her aunt, archduchess Gisela of Austria who had married a Bavarian prince. Of course, Gisala was Sissi's daughter."
 
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Now I know Princess Astrid owns endly a tiara , the Aoste tiara.
Countess Anna Theresa 's hairdresser could have hidden Princess Astrid Velvet et put the tiara correctly and not in front of her hair.
 
German and Austrian Royal and Noble Jewels

Vincent Meylan from Point de Vue shared a few pictures on Instagram taken at the ball following the wedding of Duchess Sophie von Würtemberg to Count Maximilian d’Andigne.
Princess Mathilde von Waldburg-Zeil, aunt of the bride, is wearing the original Cambridge Lover’s Knot Tiara made for Duchess Augusta of Cambridge which was later the inspiration for Queen Mary when she had her own Lover’s Knot Tiara made.
The tiara was sold by the heirs of Princess Augusta of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, née Cambridge in the fifties and later bought by Princess Mathilde’s father-in-law at an auction in the nineties.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpOmpMSnQGs/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=do68o8hiix62

The mother of the bride, Duchess Marie Caroline of Würtemberg wore a ruby and diamond parure that previously belonged to Duchess Maria Immaculata of Würtemberg, née Habsburg-Toscana.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpOpXAJnfHd/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=iuyh50mcgem0

Both of the ladies are pictured wearing the tiaras for the first time.
 
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Stefan said:
Interesting. This is the first time that Duchess Marie Caroline is seen wearing a Württemberg tiara.
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Does she usually wear her mother’s tiara or has she never been pictured wearing a tiara before?
Both ladies wear their tiaras very well. Perfectly styled which is unfortunately not always the case at the German weddings.
 
JR76 said:
Does she usually wear her mother’s tiara or has she never been pictured wearing a tiara before?
Both ladies wear their tiaras very well. Perfectly styled which is unfortunately not always the case at the German weddings.
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For her pre Wedding Gala she wore the bavarian diamond rosette tiara and for her Wedding the douglas floral tiara. The only other time she was pictured wearing one was the pre Wedding Gala of her sister Elisabeth in 2004 when she wore the bavarian diamond and pearl floral tiara. For the pre Wedding Galas of her sister Sophie and her brother-in-law Friedrich she wore none.

Of course there could have been other occasions where she wore one but was not pictured.
 
Stefan said:
For her pre Wedding Gala she wore the bavarian diamond rosette tiara and for her Wedding the douglas floral tiara. The only other time she was pictured wearing one was the pre Wedding Gala of her sister Elisabeth in 2004 when she wore the bavarian diamond and pearl floral tiara. For the pre Wedding Galas of her sister Sophie and her brother-in-law Friedrich she wore none.

Of course there could have been other occasions where she wore one but was not pictured.
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Duchess Marie wore the Bavarian Diamond tiara at least three times:
- 2005 at the wedding of Prince Manuel of Bavaria and Princess Anna zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg
- 2005 at her sister Elizabeth's pre-wedding ball
- 2011 at the wedding of Prince Georg Friederich of Prussia and Princess Sophie of Isenburg.
The confusing thing is, that she wore the same gown and jewels at all three events, so the pics can be a bit difficult to tell apart.
This is the first time that I see a pic of her with a Württemberg tiara. And the ruby tiara suits her really well.

I assume that these pics are just an appetizer, and that more will be published in Point de Vue in November.


Edit: Do we know anything about the origins of the Bavarian rosette tiara? I have only see it worn by Marie and her sister Elisabeth.
 
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If i only had known earlier that there would be a white tie Ball on the evening of the Wedding as i was at Tegernsee on Saturday but had to leave in the early afternoon because i had to get my train.

Did we get to see a pic of her at the prussian Wedding? Can't remember. Had thought there was none of her from that occasion. Vincent Meylan says the ruby Parure is now owned by Duke Philipp.

Apparently there will be also more pics in the coming Issue of Poiunt de Vue.
 
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Stefan said:
If i only had kn own earlier that there would be a white tie Ball on the evening of the Wedding as i was at Tegernsee on Saturday but had to leave in the early afternoon because i had to gett my train.

Did we get to see a pic of her at the prussian Wedding? Can't remember. Had thought there was none of her from that occasion. Vincent Meylan says the ruby Parure is now owned by Duke Philipp.

Apparently there will be also more pics in the coming Issue of Poiunt de Vue.
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If I understand it correctly Vincent Meylan said on his Instagram that there would be both an ordinary issue featuring the wedding but also a special Royal jewellry issue in November.
 
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