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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Prince and the Governor[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The FIDE congress that is currently being held in Dresden, Germany, has attracted a number of illustrious guests. The Governor of San Luis in Argentina, where the next world championship is being held, was there to greet and inform the delegates. On Sunday he met with Alexander Prince of Saxony. We bring you a photo report.[/FONT]

FIDE (chess federation) full article with numerous photos
 
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Alexander is NOT a prince of Saxony, nor is he heir to the headship of the Saxon Royal Family.
 
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Charles said:
Alexander is NOT a prince of Saxony, nor is he heir to the headship of the Saxon Royal Family.
Totally sorry. I just posted what I found.
 
Prince Alexander Saxe-Gessaphe

Charles said:
Alexander is NOT a prince of Saxony, nor is he heir to the headship of the Saxon Royal Family.
Apparently the Margrave of Meissen, Head of the Royal House of Saxony, named Alexander his heir in 1997 "with the agreement of the dynasts of the family". Whether this makes him a legitimate heir to the Headship of a Royal House is another question.
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Prince Alexander von Sachsen in Sao Paulo, Brazil on 22 March 2006

The Saxonian minister of foreign affairs and advisor of the Saxonian Prime Minister, Prince Alexander taken up of Saxonia M., to 22.03.2006 during a meeting with investors in the Brazilian restaurant metropolis Sao Paulo. The Wettiner traveled in the past 14 days on behalf of the Free State Saxonia by South America to attach contacts with politicians and enterprises and in-recruit investments. The prince and his wife, princess Gisela von Bayern, live with their four children in Dresden. In the year 1989 the Wettiner celebrated the 900-jaehrige anniversary of the oldest, today still German prince house existing in direct lines. Prince Alexander was intended 1995 for the Kronprinzen of the family.



(photos from DPA)
 
Prime Minister Milbradt, Prince Alexander of Sachsen, on Saturday 25,03,2006 beside his wife, present a book of pictures in the hand in a hotel of the Brazilian restaurant metropolis Sao Paulo. The Wettiner traveled in the past 14 days on behalf of the Free State Saxonia by South America to attach contacts with politicians and enterprises and in-recruit Investitonen. The prince and Princess Gisela von Bayern live with their four children in Dresden.

Photo by Ralf Hirschberger for DPA

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Since when did Prince Alexander drop the 'Gesaphe' part of his name? Or is the caption wrong? Will he be the heir of Pricnce Max-Emmanuel or will the title go to one of the junior branches of the house Wettin?
 
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Prince Alexander was named as his natural heir by the Margrave of Meissen in 1997 "with the agreement of the dynasts of the Family" according to Royalty Digest. Alexander moved to Dresden from Mexico and is now head of a Saxon Government department in charge of business development. I guess the 'Gessaphe' has been quietly dropped.

A ps to the Royals and the Reich subject: Prince Maria Emanuel (before he became Margrave of Meissen and Head of the Royal House of Saxony) along with his father Margrave Friedrich Christian were arrested by the Gestapo and jailed in Dresden; both narrowly escaped death sentences in 1944.
 
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galuhcandrakirana said:
Princess Xenia of Saxony, 19, who will also skip the wedding, said: 'I do hope that Ferfried does not experience a similar fate to that of Franz Gsell.'

Just a short info about Xenia Princess of Saxony: she is the illegitimate daughter of Iris Princess of Saxony (thus German family law accords her her mother's last name which is "Prinzessin von Sachsen") and an unknown father. Iris herself is the legitimate but morganatic daughter of Prince Georg Timo von Sachsen and Margit Lukas, who was the daughter of a butcher. Iris grew up at her mother's parent's house without knowing of her Royal background till she was 18. She has been married for four times, in between she had two daughters from unknown fathers according to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~conqueror/genealogy_html/i1116.html#i26563
Other genealogy sources say the same.

The Family of Saxony does not recognize Iris and her children, especially as Xenia (the above quoted "princess") tries to build a career in TV by taking part as a "Princess" in shows like "The Castle" which was the medieval version of the jungle- thing "I'm a star" or in boulevard-TV-programmes where she sells her Royal background.

I do like young Xenia, during the quite tough situations in "Die Burg" she showed that she has character and is a rather sweet and well-mannered girl.
But still she is not the right "Princess" to be quoted in such an article, IMHO.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~conqueror/genealogy_html/i622.html#i26557
 
Jo, are you saying "people in glass houses..." :D
 
Warren said:
Jo, are you saying "people in glass houses..." :D

I guess, that's what I did. :D But really, Xenia seems to be a very nice girl and it's not her fault that her heritage is somehow tainted. And she has the right to use that name when it comes to the German law of the time she was born. Sie simply is "Xenia Prinzessin von Sachen, Herzogin von Sachsen."

And: she is not adopted, so she really has some Royal blood in her veins... I recall that at the "Burg" (Castle) show she was early on voted by the callers to become a scullery maid instead of princess and that meant hard work, early hours, primitive circumstances... But she managed very well, never became bitchy for example when she had to work as maid to one of the girls the public voted for as "ladies" etc. As I said, I like her.

And it's a difficult life she has in a way: there is no money that I know of, there is no chance she is invited to the balls of the aristocracy as she has no sponsor from the Saxony-family (they consider her probably as being just a by-blow) but she like other girls dreams of being a "real" princess... So why not try her hand at TV? After all, others are sucessful at that including the current wife of the prince Ferfried, who does not even have a drop of Royal blood in her veins and got her name through marriage (AFAIK - couldn't finde any different information on the net).

So, yes, I wish her well.
 
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Jo of Palatine said:
But really, Xenia seems to be a very nice girl... So, yes, I wish her well.
...and that's a refreshing sentiment. She'd be pulled to pieces in the Monaco Forums. :eek:
 
Warren said:
...and that's a refreshing sentiment. She'd be pulled to pieces in the Monaco Forums. :eek:

Interesting that you say that. When I started reading about Charlene Wittstock I thought that Xenia of Saxony could exactly be the girl for prince Albert. If he has something against the Parisian socialites his sister Caroline champions and looks more for the down-to-earth people his sister Steph favours, then Xenia (apart from being young, blond and nice to look at) could exactly be Princess Right.... LOL :D

I'm afraid, though, that she might not want the prince...
 
Alles aus: Prinz Rüdiger und Diana gehen getrennte Wege
Aus und vorbei! Lange Zeit war es das bestgehütetste Geheimnis in hiesigen Adelskreisen. Doch die Morgenpost erfuhr: Prinz Rüdiger von Sachsen und Gattin Prinzessin Diana haben sich getrennt. Zum zweiten Mal und diesmal wohl für immer.
http://www.sz-online.de/nachrichten/artikel.asp?id=1228624
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Rüdiger Prinz von Sashsen, morganatic son of the late Prince Timo of Saxony and Margit Lukas, and his wife Diana (nee Dorndorf) have separated. The couple were married in 2004.
Rüdiger is a cousin of the head of the Saxon Royal House, the Margrave of Meißen.
 
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Prince and the Governor[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]23.08.2005 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The FIDE congress that is currently being held in Dresden, Germany, has attracted a number of illustrious guests. The Governor of San Luis in Argentina, where the next world championship is being held, was there to greet and inform the delegates. On Sunday he met with Alexander Prince of Saxony. We bring you a photo report.[/FONT]
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2593
 
Concerning the story on Rüdiger and Diana von Sachsen, I have seen one source that says the couple is already divorced, so perhaps the article is a little outdated.
 
Prinz Alexander bleibt in Diensten Sachsens
15.12.2005
Dresden. Neue Hoffnung für Alexander Prinz von Sachsen. Nachdem ihm Wirtschaftsminister Thomas Jurk (SPD) als Ansiedlungsbeauftragter zum Jahresende den Vertrag nicht mehr verlängerte, führt der 52-Jährige nach Informationen dieser Zeitung jetzt Gespräche mit der Staatskanzlei über einen weiteren Einsatz im Dienste des Freistaates. Ob es zum Abschluss eines Beratervertrages oder einer Honorarvereinbarung kommt, ist offenbar noch Gegenstand von Verhandlungen.
http://www.dnn-online.de/dnn-heute/59273.html
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Saxon Secretary of Commerce Thomas Jurk extended Prince Alexander's contract with the Saxon government...doing what I'm afraid I don't know. Perhaps someone with a knowledge of German can enlighten us?
 
No, you're not right, Thomas Jurk did not extend the contract... Here's the translation:

Prince Alexander to stay in the services of German federal state Saxony.

Dresden. New hope for Alexander Prince of Saxony. After secretary of commerce Thomas Jurk (SPD) decided not to prolong the prince’s contract as commissioner for the recruitment of new businesses in the area, the 52 year old now talks to the office of the prime minister about continuing his services for the federal state of Saxony, according to informations of our paper. Whether these talks lead to the signing of a contract of consultancy or to the agreement to a payment of fees, is still a topic of the negociations.

"Ansiedlungsbeauftragter" consists of the words "location" and "commissioner" and means in commerce that the prince used his contacts to convince companies to open up a new branch in Saxony.

Greetings from Germany, Jo
 
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Jo, Thank you for correcting what I posted and clarifying what happened in regards to Prinz Alexander von Saschsen...wonder if there has been any newer articles on the subject.

Could you perhaps tell me what the article about Diana and Rüdiger was about? Thanks in advance.
 
T.R.H. The Margrave and Margravine of Meißen - Head of the Royal House of Saxony




Source: Seeger-Press
 
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Benjamin said:
Jo, Thank you for correcting what I posted and clarifying what happened in regards to Prinz Alexander von Saschsen...wonder if there has been any newer articles on the subject.

Could you perhaps tell me what the article about Diana and Rüdiger was about? Thanks in advance.

Sorry, I did only just now see your question concerning prince Rüdiger.

The article says that the prince and his wife Diana have separated a year ago, but have decided to give their marriage another try. But it it didn't work out, so the divorce proceedings are going on as scheduled, so the divorce will be finally within the next weeks.

Diana claims she has only been the maid and cleaing woman while he is sad that the marriage didn't work out. He says he doesn't know where she is but the article alleges she is staying with her family in Ireland.

Hope this helps.
 
Saxony's Current Status

After 1928, it is my understanding that the Wettins continued to live in Saxony, leaving only in 1945. What is Maria Emanuel's current residence? Are they back in Dresden?
 
The Margrave and his wife live in La Tour de Peilz at the Lake Geneva in Switzerland. The family is trying to regain their properties in Saxony but AFAIk they weren't successful yet.
 
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Wettins of Saxony - Current Status?

It seems that the Wettins suffered the greatest losses of German royal houses after World War II. The family scattered and they lost there property. Now, with the end of Communism, they are back in Saxony. Prince Maria Emanuel adopted his nephew Prince Alexander of Gessaphe as his heir. (Although now Prince Albert, Maria Emanuel's brother, disputes the succession.) Prince Alexander works for the Saxon government as a trade representative.

Did the family recover any of its holdings in Saxony?

Why did so many German royals end up in Mexico? Several of the Wettins and the Hohenzollerns ended up there. Was it simply because they had to go somewhere and the Mexicans agreed?
 
Not an agreement that I know of. But indeed many German royals left for South America, even before WII. My guess is that wanted to make a fortune or live a life that they wre used to, with servants et all, which was not possible in Germany anymore. Especially during the years between the wars the former german royals werent treated very nicely. I exchanged information about the brother of Barbara of Mecklenburg (nee Prussia) ith Arturo Beehche on one of the royalty forums some years ago, but sadly I lost that information due to computer failure. He seems to have known the Prince who lived in Costa Rica (could also be Barbara's parents btw). You could try to contact him on his website: EuroHistory.com
 
Schloss Wochwitz was the Wettin home in Dresden up to 1945. They were trying to get it back. I thought the matter was still in the courts, but I read on a website today that the case was closed and they lost. Is this true?
 
Any News Updates on Prinz Rüdiger?

Hello

Not a lot has been heard about the whereabouts and activities of Prince Rüdiger since his divorce from Diana and his subsequent advertising appeal for a new Royal lady. Was this for real?

Has anyone got an update on this and his other current activities / public appearances please? What passionate projects is he currently involved with?

Does anyone also know where one may post official correspondence to him?
Thank you in advance.

Opal2Amber :hedwig:
 
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