- Joined
- Jan 29, 2005
- Messages
- 80,683
- Country
- Germany
Pierre’s branch of the family (French Branch) have been wealthy since his branch moved to France many centuries ago, which was helped with marriages to the Greffulhe’s (a wealthy aristocratic Banking family in Paris) . Pierre’s mother, Margaret Bedford came from a wealthy American family (her father was a founding member of Standard Oil) , but Pierre’s wealth comes from his Arenberg ancestors not his mother’s because she wasted her trust fund jet-setting, but I’m sure he received some inheritance from his American grandmother who outlived his mother.I have read that Prince Pierre is very wealthy. His mothe was an Oil Heiress. How is he related to the head of he house. All photos would be appreciated.
Here's more information on the Arenberg family with a link for those interested.Why are the Arenbergs in the German nobility thread? They are part of the Belgian nobility
Pierre’s branch of the family (French Branch) have been wealthy since his branch moved to France many centuries ago, which was helped with marriages to the Greffulhe’s (a wealthy aristocratic Banking family in Paris) . Pierre’s mother, Margaret Bedford came from a wealthy American family (her father was a founding member of Standard Oil) , but Pierre’s wealth comes from his Arenberg ancestors not his mother’s because she wasted her trust fund jet-setting, but I’m sure he received some inheritance from his American grandmother who outlived his mother.
For those interested in some history of the family here is some information and I hope that the link I post won’t be in violation of forum https://virtusjournal.org/article/download/31719/29105/38521
The family is also part of the German nobility. The Duchy of Arenberg was part of the Holy Roman empire and situated in today's Rheinland-Pfalz. The Duke was a member of the Prussian Herrenhaus until it was abolished in 1918. The family's vast German estates were put into the "Foundation Herzog von Arenberg" after 1976.Why are the Arenbergs in the German nobility thread? They are part of the Belgian nobility
I am aware that that the family is of German origin, but since the main branch has been accepted in the Belgian nobility why aren’t they also put in the Belgian nobility thread too? Just asking, but thank you for your response.The family is also part of the German nobility. The Duchy of Arenberg was part of the Holy Roman empire and situated in today's Rheinland-Pfalz. The Duke was a member of the Prussian Herrenhaus until it was abolished in 1918. The family's vast German estates were put into the "Foundation Herzog von Arenberg" after 1976.
The difference being that the Arenbergs are cognatic descendants of the Bergs while the Limburg-Stirums are agnatic descendants of them and the Ezzonids making them one of the oldest houses of Europe.The Arenbergs like the Limburg-Stirums are descendants of the House of Berg-Altena through the Counts of Marck.
Oh yeah, that’s actually true. Have you seen the link I posted?The difference being that the Arenbergs are cognatic descendants of the Bergs while the Limburg-Stirums are agnatic descendants of them and the Ezzonids making them one of the oldest houses of Europe.
Oh yeah, that’s actually true. Have you seen the link I posted?
Did anyone know that the late Queen Elizabeth II was a descendant of the Arenberg family?
Did anyone know that the late Queen Elizabeth II was a descendant of the Arenberg family?
I don’t think she’s related to all the high nobility of Europe. The connection is through the Thurn und Taxis and Wurttemberg families.To what extent? I mean, the Queen was 'around three corners' probably related to all noble families of Europe!
I assume with him is Countess Georgiana Brandolini d’Adda (formerly of the Princes Faucigny-Lucinge)Prince Pierre d'Arenberg attended the Sotheby's Dinner „Hotel Lambert, Une Collection Princiere" in Paris on October 6:
** Pic **
SirGyamfi1 said:I assume with him is Countess Georgiana Brandolini d’Adda (formerly of the Princes Faucigny-Lucinge)
Does anyone know how exactly Sophie of Isenburg (Georg Friedrich of Prussia wife) is related to the wife (Isabel-Juliana of Stolberg-Stolberg) of head of the house of Arenberg?
So Isabel-Juliana’s children are first cousins once removed of Sophie of Isenburg?They are first cousins. Isabel-Juliana's mother Irene of Isenburg and Sophie's father Franz Alexander were siblings.
So Isabel-Juliana’s children are first cousins once removed of Sophie of Isenburg?
Did anyone read or see the wedding photos and Prince Pierre and Princess Sylvia?
Yes Pierre’s wedding was very showy from the pics from Vanity fair. Members of the Habsburg, Spanish royals, American socialites, some Indian royals were present and some Middle eastern royals were invited.I have seen photos in a Dutch royalty magazine. They left the church in an oldtimer IIRC and it was mentioned that US relatives of the prince were present.