Prince Amedeo, Princess Elisabetta and Family, News and Events 1, July 2014- present

[HereditaryPrincess]

Maximilian is a fine choice for a beautiful little one! Given that Anna Astrid was named after the BRF, it's nice that Maximilian has a more "Habsburgian" name.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

Maximilian is pretty much a Habsburg name. Does anybody know if the baby's name is only Maximilian? Archduchess Anna Astrid is also just Anna Astrid. Amedeo has pretty much a long name.

The Wikipedia page for Prince Amedeo lists the son as Archduke Maximilian. There are no middle names.

 

[Countessmeout]

The Wikipedia page for Prince Amedeo lists the son as Archduke Maximilian. There are no middle names.

Wikipedia is not the most reliable source, anyone can edit it. The information on wikipedia comes simply from the released photo which only says his first name. Anna Astrid having Maria was never announced officially. At times with these private royals we only hear full names at christenings.

Maximilian is a lovely name from way back in the family tree. Both Maximilian of Baden and Maximilian of Saxony are in Lorenz's family tree.

 

[theroyalfly]

That would be logical indeed but there is no title "prince(sse) de Habsbourg-Lorraine". It is the name of the dynasty. I wish the Belgians had be more clear indeed. But the Norwegians did the same to Prince Sverre Magnus (without any furtherer designation).

I disagree. 'Prince/sse de Habsbourg-Lorraine' is a legal title in Belgian nobility. Actually both sons of Archduke Carl Ludwig of Austria and Princess Yolande of Ligne namely Rudolf and Carl Christian were incorporated into Belgian nobility.

When Archduke Rudolf married the Belgian aristocrat Baroness Hélène de Villenfagne de Vogelsanck in 1976 and taking up residence in Belgium thereafter, it only took two years for King Baudouin to incorporate him and his children and male-line descendants werewith the hereditary title 'Prince/sse de Habsbourg-Lorraine' and the style of Serene Highness in the nobility of Belgium by royal letters patent on 29 May 1978.

In 1982, his younger brother Archduke Carl Christian married King Baudouin's niece Princess Marie Astrid of Luxembourg and a year after, him and his children and male-line descendants were also granted an entry to the Belgian nobility with a hereditary title 'Prince/sse de Habsbourg-Lorraine' and the style of Serene Highness.

Therefore, legally, both Rudolf and Carl Christian and their children and male-line descendants are HSH 'Prince/sse de Habsbourg-Lorraine' in Belgium.

Source: de Badts de Cugnac, Chantal. Coutant de Saisseval, Guy. Le Petit Gotha. Nouvelle Imprimerie Laballery, Paris 2002

 

[An Ard Ri]

Maximilian is a wonderful choice of name for the future head of the Archducal House of Austria-Este.

 

[Tatiana Maria]

The Wikipedia page for Prince Amedeo lists the son as Archduke Maximilian. There are no middle names.

Wikipedia is not the most reliable source, anyone can edit it. The information on wikipedia comes simply from the released photo which only says his first name. Anna Astrid having Maria was never announced officially. At times with these private royals we only hear full names at christenings.

To add to the answer provided by Countessmeout, numerous false claims on non-British royal titles and names are listed on Wikipedia; for instance, the Wikipedia pages are wrong on the predicate used by Princess Astrid's branch of the family, and the titles and last names used by Elisabetta and Anna Astrid. The official announcements from the Palace regarding these points have been consistent thus far:

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...-1-july-2014-present-37162-9.html#post2252368
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...elgian-royal-family-38975-15.html#post2186635

Given the official information on his sister's names and titles, the most probable option is that "Prince Maximilian" will be used when a title is needed for the boy (he and his mother were listed by their first names only in the announcement of his name) and that he will be given additional middle names (I would be surprised if Marie or Maria were not included, as all of the descendants of King Albert II carry the name), but we will have to wait and see.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

In the 15th century the Holy Roman Emperor Frederick III gave the name of Maximilian to his son and eventual heir.

 

[Tatiana Maria]

It is interesting that the couple decided upon the German version of the name rather than the French, Dutch, or Italian one. I suppose they plan to remain in Switzerland for the foreseeable future.


Although Maximilian is a traditional Habsburg name rather than a traditional Belgian royal name, it does have a Belgian royal history, albeit perhaps not the most agreeable one.

Maria, Duchess of Burgundy, whose domains included the territories of Belgium, was married to Archduke Maximilian of Austria. He governed as regent after the death of his wife, but the Belgians were hostile to Maximilian's authority and he was at one time taken prisoner by the citizens of Bruges.

Maximilian Emanuel, Elector of Bavaria, was the final governor of the Belgian territories under the rule of the Kings of Spain. His allowing French troops to occupy fortresses on the Belgian border contributed to provoking the War of Spanish Succession, as a result of which Belgium was handed over to Austria.

Princess Charlotte, daughter of Leopold I, King of the Belgians, married Archduke Ferdinand Maximilian of Austria. He subsequently became the Emperor Maximiliano of Mexico, but his troops were beaten by the armies of the Mexican republic and he was executed.

 

[Countessmeout]

It is interesting that the couple decided upon the German version of the name rather than the French, Dutch, or Italian one. I suppose they plan to remain in Switzerland for the foreseeable future.


Although Maximilian is a traditional Habsburg name rather than a traditional Belgian royal name, it does have a Belgian royal history, albeit perhaps not the most agreeable one.

Maria, Duchess of Burgundy, whose domains included the territories of Belgium, was married to Archduke Maximilian of Austria. He governed as regent after the death of his wife, but the Belgians were hostile to Maximilian's authority and he was at one time taken prisoner by the citizens of Bruges.

Maximilian Emanuel, Elector of Bavaria, was the final governor of the Belgian territories under the rule of the Kings of Spain. His allowing French troops to occupy fortresses on the Belgian border contributed to provoking the War of Spanish Succession, as a result of which Belgium was handed over to Austria.

Princess Charlotte, daughter of Leopold I, King of the Belgians, married Archduke Ferdinand Maximilian of Austria. He subsequently became the Emperor Maximiliano of Mexico, but his troops were beaten by the armies of the Mexican republic and he was executed.

The language of Belgium or Switzerland likely didnt cross their mind at all.

Its a family name in the German form. Likely saw no reason to change that.

Lorenz's great-grandmother was Maria Josepha of Saxony. Both of Maria's paternal great-grandfathers were named Maximilian. Her father George was a son of John of Saxony and Amalie of Bavaria. John's father was Maximilian of Saxony, and Amalia's father was Maximilian of Bavaria.

George had Maximilian as a middle name, and he named one of his sons Maximilian (he was a priest). Maria Josepha had two sons, Charles (who was Lorenz's grandfather) and Maximilian of Austria. The wife of Mariano Hugo, Prince of Windisch-Graetz (Lady Gabrielle Windsor's godfather among other things) is Maximilian's granddaughter. Mariano's heir is named Maximilian.


Amalie had brother Maximilian and sister Maximiliana though both died in early childhood. Her nephew was Maximilian II of Bavaria.



Amedeo is not just a Belgian prince. He is an Archduke of Austria-Este. It makes sense he chooses a name to honor his paternal side.

 

[maria-olivia]

Prince Lorenz for his work uses different tittles :
Prince of tne Belgians , Archiduc of Habsbourg- Este and Duc de Barre.

 

[Tatiana Maria]

The language of Belgium or Switzerland likely didnt cross their mind at all.

Its a family name in the German form. Likely saw no reason to change that.

The various Maximilians mentioned in this thread (aside from Maximilian zu Windisch-Graetz) date to a period when different forms of an individual's name were used in different languages. For example, King Leopold I's son-in-law was known as Ferdinand-Maximilien instead of Ferdinand Maximilian in French, and Maximiliano instead of Maximilian in Spanish. The sources written in Dutch or French with which Prince Amedeo may have informed himself about his family history would most likely have used the Dutch or French forms of their names. But it is possible that he chose the German form to honor the German heritage of the Maximilians in his family tree.

Princess Esmeralda, however, named her son using the Spanish form (Leopoldo) of the Belgian royal name Leopold/Léopold, even though none of the Leopolds in the royal family were of Spanish heritage.

 

[leidi]

The various Maximilians mentioned in this thread (aside from Maximilian zu Windisch-Graetz) date to a period when different forms of an individual's name were used in different languages. For example, King Leopold I's son-in-law was known as Ferdinand-Maximilien instead of Ferdinand Maximilian in French, and Maximiliano instead of Maximilian in Spanish. The sources written in Dutch or French with which Prince Amedeo may have informed himself about his family history would most likely have used the Dutch or French forms of their names. But it is possible that he chose the German form to honor the German heritage of the Maximilians in his family tree.

Princess Esmeralda, however, named her son using the Spanish form (Leopoldo) of the Belgian royal name Leopold/Léopold, even though none of the Leopolds in the royal family were of Spanish heritage.

Well, in Esmeralda's case it has to do with the Hondurean heritage of her husband, after all her children are half Latinos anyway.

 

[Duc_et_Pair]

Prince Lorenz for his work uses different tittles :
Prince of tne Belgians , Archiduc of Habsbourg- Este and Duc de Barre.

Prince of the Belgians? Isn't his title Prince of Belgium? I thought he was Duca di Modena?

 

[Tatiana Maria]

Prince of the Belgians? Isn't his title Prince of Belgium? I thought he was Duca di Modena?

As far as I have read, Prince Lorenz and his family have never used Modenese titles, at least not in public situations. Even if they did so, it would be a pretended title, as Italian titles of nobility were abolished in 1948.

His father, born as Archduke Robert of Austria, took the name and arms of the house of Este, but not the titles of the duchy of Modena, in 1916.

The Succession Laws of Modena

His Imperial and Royal Apostolic Majesty has been pleased, by patent of April 16 last, to transfer the name and arms of Este to his son HI&RH the archduke Robert Karl, in accordance with the testament of HRH the late archduke Franz of Austria-Este, duke of Modena, and HI&RH the late archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Este, so that HI&RH and those of his issue from equal marriage called after him by primogeniture shall bear the name Austria-Este and join the arms of Este with their own.​

Notice that the late Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Este is not styled duke of Modena in the announcement.

It is also worth noting that under the patent, the name Austria-Este would have passed to the eldest son only. However, as the Austro-Hungarian monarchy was abolished and Robert's children born in France, all his children were born as "d'Autriche-Este (Habsbourg-Lorraine)", as children automatically took the last name of their father under French law.

 

[maria-olivia]

King Louis Phillipe was the first and the last Roi des Français.
Leopold I was Roi des Belges and not roi de la Belgique

 

[Biri]

Princess Esmeralda, however, named her son using the Spanish form (Leopoldo) of the Belgian royal name Leopold/Léopold, even though none of the Leopolds in the royal family were of Spanish heritage.

But Leopoldo Moncada's father, Salvador Moncada, is Honduranian.

 

[Tatiana Maria]

But Leopoldo Moncada's father, Salvador Moncada, is Honduranian.

Yes, but Salvador does not carry the name Leopoldo, to the best of my knowledge. Leopoldo Moncada was presumably named in honor of his maternal family, which is not of Spanish or Latino heritage.

Prince Amedeo is Belgian and Princess Elisabetta is Italian. Had they used the Belgian (Dutch or French) or Italian form of Maximilian for their son, the situation would have been no different from using the Spanish form of Léopold for the son of Princess Esmeralda and Salvador Moncada.

The fact is that both children's names were the decision of their parents; it was not necessary to use a particular form of the name in either case.

Prince of the Belgians? Isn't his title Prince of Belgium?

King Louis Phillipe was the first and the last Roi des Français.
Leopold I was Roi des Belges and not roi de la Belgique

Indeed, the title of the kings is King of the Belgians. However, the royal family uses the title Prince of Belgium rather than Prince of the Belgians.

https://www.heraldica.org/topics/royalty/royalbelge.htm

The same applies to Lorenz:

Article 1. Dans les actes publics et privés qui le concernent, l'Archiduc Lorenz-Otto-Carl-Amedeus d'Autriche-Este, époux de Notre Fille bien-aimée, la Princesse Astrid-Joséphine-Charlotte-Fabrizia-Elisabeth-Paola-Marie, Princesse de Belgique, sera qualifié Prince de Belgique à la suite des noms et titres qui lui sont propres.​

 

[paola]

My dear fellow users, it might not just be that they thought it was a nice name Maximilian ???????


And nothing else ???????

 

[Duc_et_Pair]

It is a beautiful, historic and fitting name. Maybe the name has three forms as Belgium has three official languages: aartshertog Maximiliaan van Oostenrijk-Este, l'archiduc Maximilien d'Autriche-Este, Erzherzog Maximilian von Österreich-Este. One never knows how that works with royal titulature on different sides of the language borders.

 

[Tatiana Maria]

It is a beautiful, historic and fitting name. Maybe the name has three forms as Belgium has three official languages: aartshertog Maximiliaan van Oostenrijk-Este, l'archiduc Maximilien d'Autriche-Este, Erzherzog Maximilian von Österreich-Este. One never knows how that works with royal titulature on different sides of the language borders.

According to the Palace announcement of the name, it is kept in German form in both the French and Dutch languages.

Le Prince Amedeo et son épouse Elisabetta ont la grande joie de présenter leur fils Maximilian.

Prins Amedeo en zijn echtgenote Elisabetta stellen met trots hun zoontje Maximilian voor.​

Regarding the royal titulature, since the Palace has always called his sister Princesse Anna Astrid, Prinses Anna Astrid, or Princess Anna Astrid up to the present time, I would predict it working in the same way for her brother: Prins/Prince/Prinz in the respective language, followed by Maximilian in German form. But anything could happen.

My dear fellow users, it might not just be that they thought it was a nice name Maximilian ???????


And nothing else ???????

Of course that is a possibility. Is the German form of the name popular in Belgium or in Italy?

 

[Duc_et_Pair]

I disagree. 'Prince/sse de Habsbourg-Lorraine' is a legal title in Belgian nobility. Actually both sons of Archduke Carl Ludwig of Austria and Princess Yolande of Ligne namely Rudolf and Carl Christian were incorporated into Belgian nobility.

When Archduke Rudolf married the Belgian aristocrat Baroness Hélène de Villenfagne de Vogelsanck in 1976 and taking up residence in Belgium thereafter, it only took two years for King Baudouin to incorporate him and his children and male-line descendants werewith the hereditary title 'Prince/sse de Habsbourg-Lorraine' and the style of Serene Highness in the nobility of Belgium by royal letters patent on 29 May 1978.

In 1982, his younger brother Archduke Carl Christian married King Baudouin's niece Princess Marie Astrid of Luxembourg and a year after, him and his children and male-line descendants were also granted an entry to the Belgian nobility with a hereditary title 'Prince/sse de Habsbourg-Lorraine' and the style of Serene Highness.

Therefore, legally, both Rudolf and Carl Christian and their children and male-line descendants are HSH 'Prince/sse de Habsbourg-Lorraine' in Belgium.

Source: de Badts de Cugnac, Chantal. Coutant de Saisseval, Guy. Le Petit Gotha. Nouvelle Imprimerie Laballery, Paris 2002

I stand corrected, but isn't "de Habsbourg-Lorraine" a different branch? In a similar case, Anna-Astrid and Maximilian should be incorporated into Belgian Nobility with the titles prince (princesse) de Habsbourg-d'Este ?

 

[Tatiana Maria]

I disagree. 'Prince/sse de Habsbourg-Lorraine' is a legal title in Belgian nobility. Actually both sons of Archduke Carl Ludwig of Austria and Princess Yolande of Ligne namely Rudolf and Carl Christian were incorporated into Belgian nobility.

When Archduke Rudolf married the Belgian aristocrat Baroness Hélène de Villenfagne de Vogelsanck in 1976 and taking up residence in Belgium thereafter, it only took two years for King Baudouin to incorporate him and his children and male-line descendants werewith the hereditary title 'Prince/sse de Habsbourg-Lorraine' and the style of Serene Highness in the nobility of Belgium by royal letters patent on 29 May 1978.

In 1982, his younger brother Archduke Carl Christian married King Baudouin's niece Princess Marie Astrid of Luxembourg and a year after, him and his children and male-line descendants were also granted an entry to the Belgian nobility with a hereditary title 'Prince/sse de Habsbourg-Lorraine' and the style of Serene Highness.

Therefore, legally, both Rudolf and Carl Christian and their children and male-line descendants are HSH 'Prince/sse de Habsbourg-Lorraine' in Belgium.

Source: de Badts de Cugnac, Chantal. Coutant de Saisseval, Guy. Le Petit Gotha. Nouvelle Imprimerie Laballery, Paris 2002

I stand corrected, but isn't "de Habsbourg-Lorraine" a different branch? In a similar case, Anna-Astrid and Maximilian should be incorporated into Belgian Nobility with the titles prince (princesse) de Habsbourg-d'Este ?

By law, "Prince/sse" is the legal title and "de Habsbourg-Lorraine" is the legal surname of the branches descended from Prince and Princesse Carl Ludwig de Habsbourg-Lorraine (which indeed are from a different line of the family).

As shown in the rules of the national registration, the only titles of nobility that are registered with a designation are "King/Queen of the Belgians", "Prince/ss of Belgium" and "Duke/Duchess of Brabant". All other titles of nobility are legally in the form "Prince/ss", "Duke/Duchess" etc. without further designation, even if they are associated with a surname (which is a separate thing) such as "de Habsbourg-Lorraine".

https://www.ibz.rrn.fgov.be/fileadm...ructions/liste-TI/TI012_Titre_de_noblesse.pdf

code titre : le titre de noblesse est codé par 2 chiffres conformément au tableau ci-dessous :
01
Prince
02
Princesse
03
Duc
04
Duchesse
05
Marquis
06
Marquise
07
Comte
08
Comtesse
09
Vicomte
10
Vicomtesse
11
Baron
12
Baronne
13
Chevalier
15
Ecuyer
17
Archiduc
18
Archiduchesse
19
Grand-Duc
20
Grande-Duchesse
21
Roi des Belges
22
Reine des Belges
23
Prince de Belgique
24
Princesse de Belgique
25
Duc de Brabant,
Prince de Belgique
26
Duchesse de Brabant,
Princesse de Belgique
​

The question is whether Habsburg-Este is the surname of the branch issuing from Prince Lorenz.

Looking once again at Princess Anna Astrid's birth registration (link), it lists her as

Son Altesse Impériale et Royale la Princesse Anna Astrid Marie Archiduchesse d'Autriche-Este (Habsbourg-Lorraine)

(Her Imperial and Royal Highness Princess Anna Astrid Marie Archduchess of Austria-Este (Habsburg-Lorraine))​

As seen in the regulations above, "Princesse" and "Archiduchesse" are recognized as legal titles in the national registration, whereas "Archiduchesse d'Autriche-Este" is not. Under the legal rules, "d'Autriche-Este" is part of the surname: "d'Autriche-Este (Habsbourg-Lorraine)".

 

[Duc_et_Pair]

By law, "Prince/sse" is the legal title and "de Habsbourg-Lorraine" is the legal surname of the branches descended from Prince and Princesse Carl Ludwig de Habsbourg-Lorraine (which indeed are from a different line of the family).

As shown in the rules of the national registration, the only titles of nobility that are registered with a designation are "King/Queen of the Belgians", "Prince/ss of Belgium" and "Duke/Duchess of Brabant". All other titles of nobility are legally in the form "Prince/ss", "Duke/Duchess" etc. without further designation, even if they are associated with a surname (which is a separate thing) such as "de Habsbourg-Lorraine".

https://www.ibz.rrn.fgov.be/fileadm...ructions/liste-TI/TI012_Titre_de_noblesse.pdf

code titre : le titre de noblesse est codé par 2 chiffres conformément au tableau ci-dessous :
01
Prince
02
Princesse
03
Duc
04
Duchesse
05
Marquis
06
Marquise
07
Comte
08
Comtesse
09
Vicomte
10
Vicomtesse
11
Baron
12
Baronne
13
Chevalier
15
Ecuyer
17
Archiduc
18
Archiduchesse
19
Grand-Duc
20
Grande-Duchesse
21
Roi des Belges
22
Reine des Belges
23
Prince de Belgique
24
Princesse de Belgique
25
Duc de Brabant,
Prince de Belgique
26
Duchesse de Brabant,
Princesse de Belgique
​

The question is whether Habsburg-Este is the surname of the branch issuing from Prince Lorenz.

Looking once again at Princess Anna Astrid's birth registration (link), it lists her as

Son Altesse Impériale et Royale la Princesse Anna Astrid Marie Archiduchesse d'Autriche-Este (Habsbourg-Lorraine)

(Her Imperial and Royal Highness Princess Anna Astrid Marie Archduchess of Austria-Este (Habsburg-Lorraine))​

As seen in the regulations above, "Princesse" and "Archiduchesse" are recognized as legal titles in the national registration, whereas "Archiduchesse d'Autriche-Este" is not. Under the legal rules, "d'Autriche-Este" is part of the surname: "d'Autriche-Este (Habsbourg-Lorraine)".

Thanks for the extensive answer. But where does the combination "d'Autriche-Este (Habsbourg-Lorraine)" come from? Should that not be "d'Autriche-Este (Habsbourg-Este)"?

 

[Kataryn]

Thanks for the extensive answer. But where does the combination "d'Autriche-Este (Habsbourg-Lorraine)" come from? Should that not be "d'Autriche-Este (Habsbourg-Este)"?

The House of Habsburg-Lorraine was created when the duc de Lorraine married the archduchess Maria-Theresia of Austria from the House of Habsburg. As she was the heiress of her father, emperor Karl VI., she brought the name of her house with her into the marriage, forming the House of Habsburg-Lorraine (Habsburg-Lothringen) for their children. All living male members of the family are descendents of the both of them.



When Archduke Ferdinand Karl, fourth son of Maria Theresia of Habsburg and Franz-Stefan of Lorraine married the Este-heiress Maria Beatrice, their branch of the House Hansburg-Lorraine was named Österreich-Este (D'Autriche-Este). When that Habsburg-Lorraine line was to die out, the last Österreich-Este Archduke adopted his cousin Karl Ludwig of Habsburg-Lorraine, brother of emperor Franz Joseph I after Karl Ludwig agreed to take on the name of Österreich-Este, though he was a prince from the Imperial line of the house. Karl Ludwig's son Franz Ferdinand, heir of his uncle Franz Joseph I. ,married a mere countess, so his children could not inherit. In the end the Österreich-Este line went via emperor Karl's second son Rudolf to the current archduke Lorenz, husband of the Belgian princess Marie Astrid.


So while Habsburg-Lorraine ist the name of the family as a whole, Austria-Este was the name of a certain branch of the family. Through interadoption in the family, this branch continued to today's Archduke Lorenz, whose title is Archduke of Austria-Este, while he is from the family of Habsburg-Lorraine. Thus the Belgian description.



Btw - the first "Este" was the Marquess of Milan, Alberto Azzo II. who around 1000 build the castle of Este and was married to Kunigunde,the heiress of the German Welf-family. Their son Welf IV. inherited the German holdings of his parents and formed the Welf-line we see today with Prince Ernst August of Hanover (his wife is princess Caroline of Monaco) as the Head of the Welfs. Queen Victoria was another descendant and so is the queen and Princes Philip and Charles. From his marriage with Garsende of Maine he had a son Fulco I. d'Este, who inherited the Italian holdings. This line ended with Maria Beatrice and continued with her children from the Habsburg-marriage to today's Archduke Lorenz.



Hope this helps a bit. It is always difficult to understand when a reigning line changes the name form a geographical destination to a family name and on to another georgraphical description. Or vice versa.

 

[eya]

Prince Amedeo about his life in Basel, Switzerland where they live in a mansion on Marschalkenstrasse

""My family and I are really happy in Basel," enthuses Amedeo to "Het Laatste Nieuws". “It is a beautiful city that I like very much and that is human. I like the museums, I like going for walks along the Rhine and in the summer I even swim in the river from time to time,” he says of his everyday life.

https://www.nau.ch/people/welt/prinz-amedeo-aus-belgien-schwarmt-von-neuem-leben-in-basel-66239772

https://www.hln.be/royalty/ik-ben-g...ven-van-prins-amedeo-in-zwitserland~aa79448a/

 

[Tatiana Maria]

Thanks! The original HLN article appears to be behind a paywall, so the partial translation is appreciated.


The following article has more information on the affluent and apparently discreet neighborhood where TRH purchased a new house in 2021.

https://www.bzbasel.ch/basel/basel-...haus-im-basler-bachletten-quartier-ld.2091124


(As for the Instagram post screencapped by nau.ch ... I am not sure why so many refuse to correctly name the couple. The court has always been consistent in the regard that they are HRHs and Princess Elisabetta is not "of Belgium" in her own right.)

 

[Tatiana Maria]

The below comments were posted from August to October 2009 in Prince Amedeo - News & Pictures, Part 3.

Could anyone confirm that Amedeo is dating an Italian non-royal and non-noble but well introduced girl? Is it a summer flirt or an important story (apparently that girl is moving from London to NY!)?

Well the social circle of Amedeo is royalty and she isn't royalty, but yes I meant she is very well connected (and BTW if she wasn't well connected how could she met Amedeo).

ok, that's true, even regular girls can meet Amedeo. But the girl in question isn't: you know, that type of girl whose friends have important family names (not just nobility, but also finance, industry, top-lawyers). And she is rich enough to afford an Amedeo-like style of life: studying abroad, flying frequenty to expansive holiday resorts, flying to a city just because of a party, having the right dress for that party...
She is one year younger than Amedeo and grew up in Rome, where her family still lives (she has recently moved from London to NY).

I get this news by gossiping with some friends we share. I found out something more: she's a relative of the Caracciolos, princes of Castagneto and so also of the Agnelli-Elkann-de Pahlen family.

Amedea, no offence, but anyone can say that they have info from a friend of a friend who knows a friend of a royal or whatever.

Since there is no evidence publicly available, this discussion is now halted. Any further posts discussing a possible Italian girlfriend of Prince Amedeo will be deleted without notice. As long as there is no official information, Prince Amedeo is single. Please focus back on the topic of this thread, Prince Amedeo news and pictures.

With the exception of the "non-noble" aspect, the descriptions given by amedea - including the age and the relation to the Caracciolo - are an exact match with Lili Rosboch, with whom Prince Amedeo is now known to have been living with at the time, and who became his eventual bride. It seems the gossip from amedea's friends has been vindicated as being based on evidence after all.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

Which of the girls is Prince Amedeo and Princess Elisabetta's daughter Archduchess Anna Astrid?
http://www.gettyimages.com/license/1422592979

 

[iceflower]

The third from right. Below the woman still sitting in the car.

 

[Marengo]

The posts about the birth of Princess Alix can be found here.