Caroline & The Casiraghi's - University Life


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Thank you. What about the University of Paris IV: Paris-Sorbonne, License of Philosophy, do you think this is the equivalent of a Bachelor's degree in the US?

First of all, Sorbonne is the university Paris I not IV (which is Sorbonne nouvelle).

I am not so sure it is equivalent, I have always heard that a bachelor’s degree in the US is completed after a 4 years course post high school degree. A licence’s degree in France is completed after 3 years studies post high school. 4 years studies in France is equivalent to a «*Maitrise*» degree (it doesn t exist officially anymore, it is now known as the first year of a Master’s degree course (it enable students to apply for a Master degree (2nd year) or to pass official national exam to work for the French state.

When it came to general university such as law, or philosophy for instance (compared to professionnal university), a licence’s degree is far for being sufficient to work, you have to complete it by a Master’’s degree (5 years after high school diploma) because a licence is not a specialised course at all, you only learn philosophy general principles without going deep to the details.
 
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A serious thank you titiromi. And, yes you are correct, 4 years to reach a bachelor's degree in the US with 2 additional years of post graduate to acquire a Masters degree. Law schools here also have a very different requirement beyond a bachelor degree depending upon the law degree itself. Also, thanks for the clarification regarding Sorbonne Paris I vs the Sorbonne Nouvelle.

So, I wonder where Charlotte is studying now and if she is seeking an advanced degree in philosophy? Her interest in pursuing further studies in philosophy is impressive.
 
If memory serves, very soon after Charlotte left Francois Couperin she moved to London for much of the duration of her relationship with Alex Dellal..only returning to Paris when she took up with Gad in early 2012.

I had no idea when she had the time to complete a philosophy degree at the Sorbonne. Unless it was an online course.:cool:
 
If memory serves, very soon after Charlotte left Francois Couperin she moved to London for much of the duration of her relationship with Alex Dellal..only returning to Paris when she took up with Gad in early 2012.

I had no idea when she had the time to complete a philosophy degree at the Sorbonne. Unless it was an online course.:cool:

I enjoy your subtle humor, Moonmaiden.

Charlotte Casiraghi's Education
1) Lycée François 1er de Fontainebleau (Achieved "très bien" BAC results in July 2004)
2) Lycée Fenelon in Paris (2004-2006)
3) University of Paris-Sorbonne IV (2006-2007)

I just spent a good 2hrs sifting through this interesting/entertaining forum. The take away, Charlotte may not have completed her License in Philosophy due to President Sarkozy's 2007 university reforms resulting in the Universities Freedom and Responsibility (LRU) law.

Nevertheless, whatever degree she is after, considering I spent a good few years myself in a BSN/MSN nursing program - best wishes to Charlotte for knowing what she wants and going after it!
 
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First of all, Sorbonne is the university Paris I not IV (which is Sorbonne nouvelle).


I'm sorry titiromi but you are mistaken. Paris-IV is Sorbonne university. Actually it is even "more" Sorbonne university than Paris-I since it is located in the old main building in Victor COussin street.
I'm pretty sure of what I am talking about since I studied Langues Modernes there.;)


So yes, the University of Paris-IV where Charlotte studied is a fundamental part of the old Sorbonne.




About the equivalence with the US system: It's a little bit tricky nowadays since a few year ago there was a EU law, called Bolonia plan, that changed the university systems of all european countries.



But when Charlotte was studying, this new Bolonia plan was not yet implemented in France, and Sorbonne still followed the old system and you had to study 4 years to get a "maîtrise" which was the equivalent of a bachelors degree. Charlotte studied only for 3 years (she only got a license) so she didnt' really finish her studies.




The Sciences Po confusion:as Tiriromi rightfully said you can not study philosophy at Sciences Po. But there is a reason for this mistake in Charlotte's c.v.


She actually didn't study for 3 years at Paris-Sorbonne. After finishing highschool she enroled in a special 2 years preparatory course called khagne and hypokhagne that you need to follow to prepare the exam that grants you acces to the Political Sciences school.

She finished the 2 years course and she took the Sciences Po exam, but she failed and it was then that she decided to study philosophy.
And since the hypokhagne and khagne courses can be convalidated with the 2 first years of university studies, Charlotte was able to start her philosophy studies at the 3rd year.
That was actually the only year she could possible have studied at Paris-IV because inmediately afterwards she moved to London with Alex.


I guess that what Charlotte wants is to follow doctoral philophy studies in a near future. If that's the case, it's unfortunate for her that there is a new law. Years ago she would only have needed to study one more year to get the equivalent of a bachelors degree and get access to a Phd program. Now, she will need to study 2 years in order to get the new european equivalent of a bachelors degree.
Since she doesn's strike me as the most consistent of people and she gets discouraged so easily, we will have to wait and see is she is able to do so.
Who knows, anyway. Maybe she just wants to complete her bachelor's degree.


And probably everything will be easier for her now. When she was 20 years old it was probably very hard for her to fit in a place where her name didn't mean anything and she was treated like a number by her teachers.
Now, she is older and she has all the experience and contacts she has obtained throught the Monaco Philosophy encounters. Many of the professors are probably her pals. And if some are not, I'm sure they will be more than desiring to be in the good graces of a wealthy lady who gives awards and money away to philosophers.
I will be veeeeeery surprised if her academic career is not a path of roses.
 
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:previous: Excellent, thank you Paranoia, this makes sense. The prep courses called khagne and hypokhagne at Lycée Fenelon in Paris (2004-2006) were in order to take the Sciences Po exam. Thats when she failed and spent a year to get her License in Philosophy at Paris Sorbonne. And, the Sarkozy education laws did not effect Charlotte at that time. As you infer, she may have a smoother time now:flowers:
 
Good that she had decided to continue her Bachelor's Degree. I wish her the best.
 
I read that Pierre did not finish his university studies. Has he finished them yet?
 
He went some years to the famous Bocogni University in Milan, where he met Beatrice. I don't think he did not finish.
I read that Pierre did not finish his university studies. Has he finished them yet?
 
The university life of Caroline and the Casiraghis is exactly the topic on which I have a most pressing question for anyone and all who might be able to shine the light on this cobwebby brain of mine! I have, indeed, read the "new" book, the "remarkable life" (paraphrasing) of Her Royal Highness Princess Caroline née Grimaldi dit Hanovre. There was a claim in those pages which piqued my curiosity immensely, that La Princesse took both British A Levels and the French BAC exam. First question: Is that even possible without one's head exploding?!:ohmy:
I had been under the impression that she pursued the general secondary education (the O levels) in England. If in fact she did A Levels at St. Mary's, do we know which subjects? (The aforementioned book did not specify, much to my disappointment.) I know that Caroline is every inch as enlightened and brilliant as she is GORGEOUS, but I'm curious if my estimation is too modest, for if this claim by the author is true, then Caroline seems to me worthy of the stature and praise accorded to the superhero.

Of course, it's probable that Rainier did A levels and French BAC too? I think he did A Levels at Stowe and then he did whatever one does to enter Sciences Po? (And Caroline did those too, apparently!) That just sounds like an awful lot of exams to me! ?
 
The university life of Caroline and the Casiraghis is exactly the topic on which I have a most pressing question for anyone and all who might be able to shine the light on this cobwebby brain of mine! I have, indeed, read the "new" book, the "remarkable life" (paraphrasing) of Her Royal Highness Princess Caroline née Grimaldi dit Hanovre. There was a claim in those pages which piqued my curiosity immensely, that La Princesse took both British A Levels and the French BAC exam. First question: Is that even possible without one's head exploding?!:ohmy:

I had been under the impression that she pursued the general secondary education (the O levels) in England. If in fact she did A Levels at St. Mary's, do we know which subjects? (The aforementioned book did not specify, much to my disappointment.) I know that Caroline is every inch as enlightened and brilliant as she is GORGEOUS, but I'm curious if my estimation is too modest, for if this claim by the author is true, then Caroline seems to me worthy of the stature and praise accorded to the superhero.



Of course, it's probable that Rainier did A levels and French BAC too? I think he did A Levels at Stowe and then he did whatever one does to enter Sciences Po? (And Caroline did those too, apparently!) That just sounds like an awful lot of exams to me! ?
I believe Princess Caroline has A-levels in several languages but I can't remember which. Will need to check. She did then take her Bac the following year.

Prince Rainier did not take A levels as he was no longer at Stowe - he had moved to Le Rosey.
 
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